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Dearests,I know, sometime, there are problems with planes dysplaying for Mac users. like you know I want to upload my Citation x,Md80 and B737 this week end, but I'd like let to Mac users to see my plane correctly.I remember,when I maked some aircraft repaints,I received some emails from Mac users that saw planes TRASPARENT.If someboby can say me the reason of this problem,I can try to solve it.Thank you for your informations and a dear regard to all you.Giorgio Gnesdasportdesign@libero.it

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Giorgio,I'm not sure if this is the correct answer or if it will help you, but the only time I've experience planes that have been somewhat transparent was because I had allocated to much memory to Fly! II. Thus, there wasn't enough usable memory for OpenGL (I think) or something else to render it correctly. Planes appeared as a white shell until I reduced the memory allocation back to more normal levels.If you don't have a Mac, I'd be more than honored to beta test it for you before you make it available for downloading for Mac users.Thank you so much for your significant contributions to the Fly! community. Rich@KLEWBeige G3 233 MHz DT rev.1 G4 400 MHz NewerTech upgrade OS 9.2.2 384 MB RAM ATI Radeon Mac (PCI) Thrustmaster FCS/WCS

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Hi Rich,Thank you very much for your reply, I hope to understand the reason Mac users can have this problem. When you will download my planes, email me about their displaying.Thank you and a dear regardGiorgio Gnesda

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Giorgio,Bless you for thinking of the Mac people!I agree with Rich --overallocating memory to Fly and forgeting that OpenGL needs to run give white a/c.There's another factor: So far, no one has been able to convert PC scripts to work on Macs. We cannot run the beautiful TBM700 from ROTW, nor the SAAB 340 because they have scripts that add extra function, but don't work on Macs. Simply placing a PC script in the right Mac folder does not work. Trying to load a plane with PC scripts causes us to crash to desktop.ROTW released a separate version of the PA-28 that was Mac-friendly. I suspect they disabled the call to the scrpts, and now I fly the PA-28 as much as any a/c in my hanger.Thank you again.

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I'll upload the plane as is, but I wait from all you (Mac users), your feedbacks to know if all right or not ok?A dear regardGiorgio Gnesdasportdesign@libero.it

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Hi Giorgio,Bad news for me........Ive downloaded your Aircraft and all of them are Transparent. This has never happened to me before, but I've tried adjusting memory allocation to minimum and maximum, but it has made no difference at all.I've attached a pic of what I'm getting.Really hope you can get to the bottom off this, I've been really looking forward to your aircraft.Regards JohnG4/450Radion Mac AGP32556 RAMMacOS 9.2

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Ciao John,Next week I try to to some experiments to help Mac users :-)Say me: Good luck :-) !!Giorgio gnesda

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Giorgio,No problems with the Citation here but for me the 737 and the MD80 are both transparent. Rich@KLEWBeige G3 233 MHz DT rev.1 G4 400 MHz NewerTech upgrade OS 9.2.2 384 MB RAM ATI Radeon Mac (PCI) Thrustmaster FCS/WCS

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Giorgio,I finally had a little time before Sunday Mass to get your new additions and I can confirm Rich's findings. Same color -- same planes transparent. The Citation is not affected. Will try later today to compare files. I noticed that the 737 and MD80 showed slightly different file formats after downloading and unzipping.I LOVE the Citation!!!!!:-yellow1 Excellent model! Thank you, Giorgio!

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dear friends,I'll try to search for the reason of this problem.If you find it before me, email me ok!Have a nice weekGiorgio Gnesdasportdesign@libero.it

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Hi Giorgio,Just to confirm, I have now downloaded the Citation and as previously mentioned, everything is fine for this aircraft.regards John

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The problem is that the tif texture is saved in RGB format instead of indexed. Giorgio will have to convert the tif over to indexed or I can do it if he would like me to, and post it to AVSIM.Pete

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Might have guessed you'd figure it out!!.............How ya do'in mate??How come the Citation is OK?.....Pete as you mentioned before if Giorgio has to re-compose and re-save the textures can he make sure that the textures are individually allocated (wherever possible) so it will make life a bit easier for us to repaint the Aircraft.Regards JohnP.S. Pete are you still running MAC or have you converted to PC??

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I remember seeing the "WomderWoman" invisible plane whenever I forgot to convert the RBG tif back to the indexed format. I also noticed that Giorgio had saved his tif's in the RGB format. The repaints that I work on are saved in the Indexed format so visability will not be a problem. I'm primarily on PC :-grr . With the loooong load times on the Mac, it get frustrating trying to paint and waiting the 60+ seconds load time we go through, when on the PC, it loads in under 15 seconds! I'am using XP Pro and I don't like it. I much prefer MacOS 9 and X for working, but until the Mac version is sped up a lot, I'll be on the PC. As for your question on unpodding software, I've a program by Chris Wallace that I use to do my unpodding and repodding, but I had to use VPC, and now the PC to use it. I'am not sure if there is a Mac compatible utility that works with Fly! II.Pete

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Matthew..........your next project perhaps????...........pleazeeeIm sure us Mac guys would be very grateful.regards John

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John,What..... you want a pod editor for the Mac???!! :-)I've just got the POD3 format from Colin, so I might be able to give it a go... it'll be useful for my learning process and help me get dex import sorted. I've also nearly got that util for making pbg's that you asked for.Cheers,Matthew.

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Hi PeteJust letting you know that I've Unpodded several PODS, by using Fly's built in editor and its a doddle, anyone should be able to do it. I,ve not tried re-Podding yet , so i'll let you know how I get on.John

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Dearests, next week end i want to try to give you an aircraft to try, to see this time we can solve your "trasparent" problem.A dear regardGiorgio Gnesdasportdesign@libero.it

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Hi Matt,I was'nt aware that you could UN-Pod the pod files in FLYII, via the Editor (and re-pod, although I've not tried this yet), so I thought MAC users could not gain access to the system/art files.However if you want to have ago at a utility for the MAC, could you come up with a re-podding utility that can be used from the desktop, like the old EPD tool.I just think it would make life alot easier if you could place all your amended files in ONE folder and convert the whole thing via YOUR utility, so you end up with a POD, ready to place into FLY's Aircraft folder. The main reason behind this MATT is because as people start to make amendments to various files, without re-podding the ART folder is going to become a nightmare (all the various changed files) required by the search pod.Thanks Johnp.s looking forward to trying out your PBG/PBM Utility tool.

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Must of been fixed by the last update because that was a bone of contention with our Mac version. We could not use the editor to do any unpodding. Good to know that it's working.Pete

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Pete,I suggested that he try putting the POD at the same file level as the Fly app. Someone here posted that info a long time ago as a workabout to the problem of the editor's inability to work with the heirachical file system. Not a fix, just a "crutch."Allan

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