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Yes, still the first with an excellent fight model at the time. Thanks for this link! I've been looking for ages for the Windows version as my DOS version could never again run on the GeForce cards no matter what I tried. I guess it would not harm Looking Glass in any way to use this pirated version? ;-)Pieter

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Pieter, I have the DOS FU1, and it runs perfectly on my system (Athlon XP cpu, GeForce2 video card), even though I had to "patch" it a bit... Did you try to install the original patch for it?Cristian

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>Did you try to install the original patch for it?Yes. I even asked, quite a while ago, in this exact forum for help and we could not get it going. I think Windows-XP (using my hardware probably, PII Celeron 1gig, Asus GeForce MX2 32mB) is not that friendly to DOS games that old anymore. It goes up to FBO and I can select the plane, etc. but as soon as the scenery and plane is loaded I end up staring at a black screen at the DOS prompt... And FU is not alone, about none of my older DOS games (like USNF, PAW 1942, etc.) work - they all do more or less the same. I think Win-XP is the culprit here as one can't really have a "true" DOS session with it. Booting with a Win98 "DOS" disk just will not detect the large, NT formatted, harddisk. The FU1 Win 95 works perfectly and I'm not conscience stricken here as I really bought all FU/LG products up to date...Pieter

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There's an article in PC Pilot vol 16, on XP and older games. It's safe to assume that XP is your problem. Still, the article describes some compatibility modes that you may try. You may set the game to run in the various Windows version modes, avoiding high DPI settings etc. However, classic, unadulterated DOS is very likely to fail.best regards,Hans Petter

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Hi Pieter,Have you considered adding a FAT partition? I added a small 1 Gb FAT partition to my HD, so I can see it from pure dos. (you can do it painless with Partition Magic or something like that.Then you could install FU1 in that partition, and run it using the DOS boot disk.Or even better, you could do a multi-boot system... Once I had 4 systems to choose from: DOS, Win98, Linux, WinXP. Now I have only Win98 and Linux... and the DOS boot disk :) !!!Cristian

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Don't say that word!!Elsewhere on the same site is an editorial which explains that the games are only put up for download if they are no longer being published,kind of like going to your local second-hand book stall I suppose.:-wavePete

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And if I remember rightly,there were some interesting'easter eggs' hidden in that game too!Like has been said many times before,it was a dark day when Looking Glass closed down.:-wavePete

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Hmm not even the Win95 version will work for me. As soon as I choose to take off, the game just quits to the desktop. Tried running it in Windows 95 compatible mode also but it did the same thing.AthlonXP 1900+, Geforce3 Ti500, 512MB RAM, Windows XP, DX 8.1.I think my computer is too fast for this game :-lol

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FU1 has been successfully installed on my computer from Classic Trash. I can fly all the planes in all the places. I followed the procedure exactly as described by "Stormbind" in Classic TrashForumError ReportingFlight Unlimited (again) which includes copying the contents of the CD-ROM directory to the root of this sim.Without this and WinAce it was impossible.I am glad I have now this first sim in the FU-series; I did not think I would ever have the chance to try it.Win 98, Pentium III 1 Ghz, 512 MB RAM, ASUS Geforce GTS V7700Regards Roland, Sweden

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Some old games I have won't even run on Windows 98, only Windows 95. So, I don't doubt that you may be having problems on XP. I keep a 95 machine around just for my favorite old games.Peter http://bfu.avsim.net/sigpics/PeterR.gifBFU Forums Moderator[table border=2 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=1][tr][td][table border=0 cellpadding=8 cellspacing=0][tr][td bgcolor=#540000]http://bfu.avsim.net/sigpics/logo75.gif[/td][td align="center" bgcolor=#FFFFF6]Bush Flying Unlimited"At home in the wild"Looking for adventure? Come join us! * [link:bfu.avsim.net|Web Site] * [link:www.cafepress.com/bfu,bfu2,bfu3,bfu4|BFU Store] * [link:bfu.avsim.net/join.htm]Join!][/td][/tr][/table][/td][/tr][/table

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Betcha can't fly it straight and level for very long!!Strap on that Pitts Special and do a few flick rolls, that's what 'fluid dynamics' in a sim does!!Or for something really different, get in the glider behind the 'invisible' tow-plane he he:-wavePete

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Yupp, I've downloaded the Win95 version to which Pete (Motormouse) pointed us. It works perfectly on my Windows-XP system and GeForce card as it is. No need now for me to go over board trying to convince a stubborn system to accept DOS stuff it it does not want to do it.... I'm happy see: :-outtaThanks Pete!Regards,Pieter

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Actually Springfield works every time now, but as soon as I try to select another region and fly, it crashes. I can click the region from the map and walk around in the FBO but when I choose to take of, I get a *ding* sound from my speakers, the same sound that it plays when there's an error message, only there is no error message, it just quits to the desktop.I tried it both on my main NTFS partition, and I also created a 500MB FAT partition to try it on, but I got the same error both times.

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Jimmi, what if you boot in plain DOS (ex. with a boot floppy) and run the sim from the FAT partition? (you may have yo reconfigure the config files though, as DOS will only see the FAT partition and name it as C:... Cristian

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So, Pieter, you are also using WindowsXP. Are you using NTFS or FAT?Can you describe exactly how you installed the sim and if you changed any config file or option?

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I must be stupid or something. I tried it on my laptop, which has completely different specs from my Desktop computer:P3 500 MHz, 256MB RAM, ATI Rage video, Windows 98SE. The only thing it has in common with the desktop is that they are both running DX 8.1.The exact same thing happened! Springfield works, but no other region. What am I doing wrong?First, I unzip the file from the .zip arhive. Now, I have the flightunlimted.ace file Then, I use WinAce to decompress the .ace file, making sure it includes directoy info. Then, I move that folder to c: and name it flight95. I now have a c:flight95 which contains all the files and directories. The flight95 directory is 138MB big, is that the correct size?

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does almost exactely the same for meWhen i select anywhere other than springfield, and try to fly then it crashes, if i then start it up again and choose springfield again it doesnt work, i have to unace it all over again to get it to work again.

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> The exact same thing happened! Springfield works, but no other region. What am I doing wrong?To tell you the truth I haven't tried other regions! I was so happy to climb in the Sukhoi again and experience its wonderful full throat growl and power, that flying it and doing, gasp! at last, aerobatics Class Flight Unlimited again, that I did not even bother to check other regions! I'm not using FU1 for scenery sight-seeing (as I did long ago in the past when it was the first - and parts of FS still looks worse ;-)), but for the flying. Real simulated flight with laminar flow mathematics, the one and only ever to see the light next to X-Plane. The latter being the poorer as it doesn't truly support real hammerheads and vertical climbs. I will check!Pieter

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>To tell you the truth I haven't tried other regions! I was >so happy to climb in the Sukhoi again and experience its >wonderful full throat growl and power, that flying it and >doing, gasp! at last, aerobatics Class Flight Unlimited >again, that I did not even bother to check other regions! >I'm not using FU1 for scenery sight-seeing (as I did long >ago in the past when it was the first - and parts of FS >still looks worse ;-)), but for the flying. Real simulated >flight with laminar flow mathematics, the one and only ever >to see the light next to X-Plane. The latter being the >poorer as it doesn't truly support real hammerheads and >vertical climbs. I will check! >I think you need to try the new RealAir Simulations Marchetti SF260 for FS2002. It really does perform simulated manuvers that FS2002 didn't support in the past.L.Adamson

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>It really does perform simulated manuvers that FS2002 didn't support in the past.I searched for it but it's not free. Thus, that's what I'm afraid about - to pay another US$25 (for a single attachment to a program sold for US$49 in total) just to try one aircraft based on a flight model (MSFS) I don't believe in that much anyway. ;-) Then to discover I (again) wasted more money. For such luxury accessories - demo or none is my motto. My middle name, after many years in flight simulation, is: Gunshy :-lolPieter

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It may be a luxury accessory, but worth it. Word is, that around 6000 hours was put into this model between the developers. About 500 went to "spin/stall" characteristics. You can see it in the flight dynamics, virtual cockpit, exterior, sounds, and documentation. No longer does anyone put this much time into a project for a "freebie", and that's just the way it is!Of course, I can endorse this project because a: ----- I've flown the real Marchetti SF260; and b:, I've done real hammerheads,spins,etc. For a simulated aircraft, this plane comes much closer to re-creating the look, feel, as well as sound of these manuvers than any I've run across. L.Adamson

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Well here lies the problem with the downloaded FU1(Win95), flightunlimted.zip: The archive is not complete!!!Scan the folders (directories for us older chaps). If you detect files that are of similar small size (426 bytes only), especially in the CDROM directory then you are stuck! Those files contain the data for the scenery regions and they are all in the range of megabytes. E.g.: CAT00LG.RES is only 426 bytes and it should be 7419372 (or a similar ca. 7 megs, AUDINSTR.RES is only 426 and it should be more than 50 megs, etc. etc.! (The latter is the instructor's voice sound file FWIW). So those who say they can run the Abondon Ware download fully, has something I don't have and there is no way the ACE decompressor I used is mistaken in its method of extraction...Well, I'm not stuck! :-) I just copied from my original DOS version the files to match and all is restored. However, I did see that in the DOS version of FU I have the following scenery areas: Sugarloaf, Springfield, Skybryce, Sedona, Denali and the French Dinan. The 95 version has the following additional areas: California, Front Royal, New Hampshire, Glacier and French Bordeaux. All of the latter aborts the program when entering, but at least I'm not stuck in only Springfield. ;-)Tha-tha-that's all folks!Pieter

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