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Competition: Where am I?

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Just for fun.Here are some pics, all posted before, showing different aspects of the sim. All you have to do is identify the location.The prize to the first correct entry is the right to say "I was first".Oh, OK. Jon'll send you a free Twin Otter via AVSIM when its completed. OK Jon?http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/60913.jpgEasy one to start.http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/60914.jpghttp://forums.avsim.net/user_files/60915.jpghttp://forums.avsim.net/user_files/60916.jpghttp://forums.avsim.net/user_files/60917.jpgHard one - little detail!Best of luck!

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OK, I give up!I recognise SEA, CVA and Heathrow I think! Shows how much I hang around large airports :-lolAnd yes, the winner gets their face on the pilot in the Skybus DHC6 ;) You can then be only the sixth identity to fly in FU3 land - apart from Ansgar's nice folk in his Baron, first was Jim Lynch (GeeBee Jim) in the yellow GeeBee, then Caroline Corr in the Dash-8 (the pilot is the same guy in the Baron - hmmmm...), them some other guy in the Blanik and DHC6 :-rollOf course, you'd have to send me your photo first!:-wave******************* Jonathan Point *******************

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1. London Heathrow2. Osbourne House (a wild stab in the dark)3. SeaTac International4. Clare's Valley5. London GatwickChris Low.

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Scores so far:Jon: 40% - you get a fuselage and a little bit of the left wing.Chris: 80% - its not Heathrow. But I am amazed - especially at getting Gatwick - I thought that would be too difficult! You get the full Otter except without landing gear, tail or flaps. Glidernut - 80% - too. The first pic, which I thought was the easiest because of the prize-winning terminal (not the model, I mean the original!) is the hardest!OK, here are some subtle clues.1) A

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Stamerstred, Stamsted, Stated, Shansted, Wel sumat like dat.position: 728136.56250 346897.15625 121.48402Can I hav extra marks for cheek?glidernut.

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Robert,The only reason that I guessed Gatwick is because of the control tower. I noticed the distinctive shape in your updated model set ;-)Chris Low.

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Glidernut, of course you can. Automatic bonus (you don't even have to ask) for cheek gets you the glider version of the Twin Otter, yours for no extra cost. Next time you're flying the Otter, turn off both motors, set flaps, and the sky's the limit.;-) Chris, well done! I'll have to hide the control towers next time.Someone else's turn to post a few guess-where pictures?RobD.

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Yeah!Where's this?http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/61094.jpgFirst person to guess gets a copy of the package (no, it's not a posted package).Better yet, the first person to guess the airport AND explain why the ailerons are drooping and what the strange spikes on the ailerons and tail are (...) will get an preview DHC6 of their own choice to play with. Currently, Era, Lehto and the livery pictured are available.The only hint I'll give is that you descend over farmland but climb-out over suburbia. Oh, and I haven't edited the airport at all and the building in the background is an original LGS inclusion ;)Shouldn't be that hard ;)******************* Jonathan Point *******************

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Jon,The airport looks like Harvey Field.As for the other stuff.....er, I'll let someone else bag the prize :-)Chris Low.

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Can't identify the airfield, but I always agree with glidernut. As for the other matters:1) The spike on the back - an antenna ? Some wild possibilities: - VHF for VOR, or FM antenna for communications? - something to do with tail vortex effects? - maintenance put the pitot tubes at the wrong end of the aircraft? - electrical discharge?2) The spikes on the ailerons (the very thin and small black spikes drooping with the aileron) - static electrical discharge? - leverage assistance to aileron deployment (but they're too small) - aileron vortex dissociation at tips? - hat hangers for refuelling staff?3) Drooping ailerons: - you have just landed, and you want to avoid nose wheel bounce? - you are taking off with high flap but want to build good takeoff speed? - pilot has collapsed over yoke after terrifying landing?So I admit I haven't got a clue, just some guesses. RobD.

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I don't know about the spikes. Antennae might trail from various parts of the fuselage but hardly from the ailerons. I would guess that they're involved in some kind of air flow dynamics.Next, why are the ailerons deflected downwards? In this aircraft ailerons double as flaps. Whenever you set flaps the ailerons will deflect. Then, for proper aileron action they will pivot around this new start position. Result: you get more lift (flaps action) as well as proper aileron action for banking.I just captured another screenshot. Where am I at? (I know -- a proper sentence should never end with "at" but then, my command of English is limited :-))http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/61243.jpg

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Well, Chris got the field and Hans-Petter got the flaperons. I tried doing them for the Dash-8 but they didn't work properly (they are modelled, just not visible). Now I've sorted it, I may update the Dash-8.Rob sorta suggested (amongst a lot of other things) that they might be static discharge, which is correct. If you look at real aircraft, you will see a lot of them. They are a passive device that basically causes any discharge to occur via the wires and not the trailing edges of control surfaces. This reduces pitting and degradation of the control surfaces whilst minimising discharge from other parts of the aircraft. They also play a sacrificial part in lightning protection by providing an element that can be easily replaced - better than having your elevators blown off :-eek Since I had a few polygons left, I thought they'd be a nice touch to the external views.:-wave******************* Jonathan Point *******************

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I knew you knew glidernut. You knew I knew you knew? I should have realised about the flaperons - Jon you had mentioned earlier that the flaps and ailerons were linked and I hadn't twigged. Very clever.With Hans Petter's posting, given that you can see Mt Rainier in the background, I reckon its somewhere in Washington State. Now that I've done the hard bit, Chris can do the easy bit of saying exactly where.Somewhere near McChord? I forget the names of all those fields. And that means glidernut is going to win the prize this time - bother.RobD.

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Hi Gang,I'll add some shots tomorrow looks like a fun thread, I'll add some bush strips and ole fishing holes :-lolIn the meantime see if you's can answer these questionsQ. What was the tallest Mt in the world before Mt. Everest was discovered?Q. Something that is built and sold. But the builder doesn't want to try it.The buyer usually doesn't use it and the user doesn't see it.Answer these correctly and you might recieve the lastest Janet Jackson video :-lolHave Fun :-newburnAllan and Puppyhttp://avsim.com/hangar/air/bfu/logo70.gif

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Aw geez ;)Well, Everest was still the tallest mountain, regardless of when it was discovered. That's just logical.As to the other one, logic evades me right now :-rollRelevance to aircraft or flight sims might make it easier :-lol:-wave******************* Jonathan Point *******************

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Q1) Mt. Everest. Thats what I was gona say.Q2) Its on the tip of my tung.glidernut.

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1)Harvey Field2)Aileron droop is a feature of DHC-6, basically the ailerons become 'extra' flaps while still retaining differential control as ailerons. (The Blackburn Buccaneer had this feature too,likewise the Naval variants of the F4 Phantom)3)Little spike things on ailerons are electro-static dischargers4)Spike under the tail is a tailskid,in case you pull back too muchduring landing/take-off:-wavePete

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Chris is correct, the airport in my screenshot is Scatter Creek. Since Chris made that package he ought to know :-)The aircraft is a beta version of Jon's Twin Otter. I flew it from Port Angeles down south and ended up at Scatter Creek. Actually, I was planning to go to an outer terrain airport southeast of Port Angeles. It used to be located right next to a fjord or a bay. I might want to put it back since it was a nice destination for slightly longer flights. Hans Petter

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Jonpoint,Relevance to aircraft or flight sims might make it easierYes your right and I'm sorry, I was just fooling around I will not do that again OK :-lol I promise to be very very serious from this day forward, No more fooling around for sure.John.Q1 Mt Everest you's are both right.Q2 = CoffinHave Fun :-newburnAllan and Puppyhttp://avsim.com/hangar/air/bfu/logo70.gif

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