Is this what you wanted to do, just curious myself now, probably a long day at work.This is what I used ( UMBEL110/15 to then go to UMBEL.. then to UPTON )Cause i tried it the way you described it and had some success with it, just the on fix that never showed up in the LEGS page, the RWY oneOff the ND is UPTONhttp://forums.avsim.net/user_files/169112.jpgChris