Flt300Z

Excellent- It works Great- I re-installed the 182Q (maybe it was OK, and the installed GNS 430 messed me up temporarily) and works per your simple change://gauge08=172Things4!vor1, 173,345,161,165gauge08=Cessna182Q6!Vor1, 162,336,180,174Not only does it add the ILS Needle to 172N, but this 182Q gauge pasted into the 172N allows the RealityXP430 to "Drive VOR1" when selecting GPS/NAV via CDI button on the 430. Also, I landed this plane on various hard runways and in snow in Alaska, so even though it has skis, it lands good on hard rwy, no lowering of skis required as per another post. I did try to land in water for fun, NOP, got the splash as expected. :(

DANGIT!!!!!Attached 182Q picture (I am Higher at same location, 182Q pit shown, no ILS/glidescope lock flying in)- As you notice -Something(on My 182Q side) is messed up, the 182Q worked on this approach in the past SO, I think I need to un/reinsall my 182Q. I do own the RealityXP 430 GPS/Autopilot- guess I get to play the unstall/re-install game for a while. Thanks for the help, I like the 172N even if I don't get the ILS gauge from the 182Q to work.

Here is area I changed in panel.cfg: (See bottom 2 lines, per your change suggestion)//--------------------------------------------------------[Vcockpit01]Background_color=0,0,0 size_mm=512,512visible=0pixel_size=1024,1024texture=$Panel_172_1gauge00=172Things2!Attitude, 172,1,163,168gauge01=172Things2!Heading Indicator, 176,171,156,172gauge02=172Things!Airspeed, 0,1,164,169gauge03=172Things2!Altimeter, 342,0,168,170gauge04=172Things2!Vertical Speed, 343,172,168,169gauge05=172Things!Turn Coordinator3, 0,171,171,171gauge06=172Things2!RPM Indicator, 2,343,166,167gauge07=172Things4!vor2, 343,345,161,165//gauge08=172Things4!vor1, 173,345,161,165gauge08=Cessna182Q6!Vor1, 162,336,180,174The gauge shows up, but it does NOT ever changes/updates per attached photo (if my insert works!):Here is an approach to KPNS (Pensacola Florida) ILS 111.10, runway 170. I am tuned to 111.10 on both radios- I am flying WAY to the right on approach to RWY 170, - VOR1 never changes VOR2 Show lateral AOK?

Thanks Bert,I tried your above tip (changed in panel.cfg), it did make the gauge for the 182Q show up in dash panel of 172N, along with it's ILS needle, but after tuning to a known ILS freq, the ILS needle didn't track/move (neither did the lateral needle, to/from). I tuned VOR2 to same freq and it did lateral track (so I know I was tuned to a valid freq.) Thanks anyway, I may fiddle with it more later. Also, for others info, it does not have an autopilot, and the "popup" one that comes with the RealityXP 430GPS does not seem to function with the 172N. I also have not been able to get the RealityXP 430GPS to Control the VOR1 when GPS selected on the RealityXP. (RealityXP GPS does work fine as a popup, though.) Like I said, I really like the flight model and the sounds. Price was are good, also.Flt300z

I Purchased it- Very Happy with the flight dynamics (and the price). Correct me if I am wrong, It does not seem to have ILS in VOR #1 (has lateral needle but no glidescope needle, probable like original) and although I have the RealtyXP, the VOR gauges do not connect/link when I select "GPS" on RealityXP Gauge. Once again correct if I am wrong.The Flight dynamics/model IMO are EXCELLENT. I bought the Caranado 182Q long ago (FSX/FS2004 version) Good, but this flight model IMO MUCH better. Lowering Flaps on the 182Q IMO are too radical, causing too much vertical change on 182Q model. I think this 172N model is much better.I only tried on normal runways (no snow or ice), so this model will work fine on hard runways and I will try later in Snow. For the price once again, I think EXCELLENT.Flt300ZOLDER InteL Pentuim D 3.0OLD ATI 2600 XT 512MBOLD 3GB MemoryNewer 640GB Hard Drive(I am too lazy to look up above model numbers!)

Thanks for Input, I am going to try lower settings on the helos included with FSX and Acceleration. I have found them so annoying to fly with full realism settings that I seldom fly them and never fly them more than 20 miles or so.As an aside, the FSD Saratoga addon I purchased a while back flies really nice even with the full realism settings.William

Thanks for the Pictures GeofA- Amazing that items so small can effect flight azimuth and altitude trim- but then I think of ice on wing(s) and how small amounts in the right place will completely screw up lift, so not so surprising, I guess.William

Thanks again for all the inputs above. I checked how I loaded the C172, it was the default- 170lb pilot and 170lb passenger and gas full, so not unbalanced. I did try without the passenger yep, that definately made the problem worse.Above, someone mentioned decreasing pfactor/torque slider in the realism setting. This did work though (gets rid of constant pull to right), and although this may be somewhat less realistic, IMO it is more enjoyable to fly, so this works good for me for C172, THANKS.Also, as advised, I do just lock to NAV1 or HDG bug with autopilot for long distances, but wanted a way to use twist rudder sometimes, with the ball in artificial plane working. Actually, like I mentioned, you can set autorudder on in settings and the twist on joystick still moves the rudder L/R, it is just not as sensitive and no ball movement.Also, FWIW, the P51 does have a rudder trim knob in the virtual cockpit, it is just to the left of the pilots seat. You have to really crank that up to get a level flight with P51. I don't know if it is true in actual flight, but as I gained altitude, I had to decrease amount of rudder trim. (since air is thinner, less torque effect?). Started off with about 25% positive rudder at 2000 feet Alt and decreased to 4% rudder by the time I was at 26,000 ft. It seemed to screw up somewhat during decent though, and required settings of -9% during landing, I think the SW got a little screwed up at this point, oh well.Also, that is funny that the rudder trim on actual C172 is set by bending a part outside the plane, LOL.William

Thanks for all comments. Yeah, I would like to get rudder pedals one day. I believe the joystick is calibrated properly as the supplied SW from Logitec shows graphics that shows proper centering of the x and y axis and rudder. Plus, it flies level with autorudder checked, so x and y are good. I does seem a little wierd that flying level with no wind (and no autorudder) requires almost constant input to turn back to right though, or the plane will always end up in a left spiral turn (eventually a 360 degree turn I think). I do notice pull to left a little on the twin Baron, not as much as the C172 though. I think last time I tried the P51, it was almost unflyable as the pull to left is extreme. I am gonna fire up and see if P51 has a rudder trim knob, I couldn't find rudder trim knob for the C172. I am going to go try the Lear, also, ie no torque from engine as sujjested. And, in the Baron, if I adjust the rudder to 1% positive, it seems to be slightly too much, and it starts drifting to the right. I will experiment with the torque/pfactor sliders as you suggested. For those that actually have pedals - If you fly the C172 (in No Wind) with rudder pedals (no autorudder checked no settings), does it continually require turn to right rudder corrections about every 10 to 20 seconds to fly anywhere near constant heading? William

Hi,Sorry if this should have been posted in the HW forum, but I don't think this is a HW problem and may be more a file that need to be edited or CTFJ (I remember the old program, LOL) or someting similar.I am using a Logitech Extreme 3D Pro Joystick in FSX. I recently upgraded from a joystick that did not have a "twist" rudder. I notice for certain Aircraft after I uncheck Autorudder in settings, the plane will not fly straight, it continues to pull/drift to the left. The included Cessna 172 is one of the worst, the Baron also drifts to left. I don't see a rudder trim adjustment in the cockpit for the C172 at least, so flying level is a constant battle of twisting rudder/turning back to the right. It may fly level about 15 seconds, then drifts to left more and more. I also have the FSD Saratoga add on, it does much better when autorudder is unchecked in settings, so it doesn't seem to be a calibration problem (I have tried re-calibration).Is there an edit/change/calibration so the C172 or Baron will fly better with Autorudder setting unchecked? I can fly these AC with the autorudder checked- they will then fly without constant pull to left, but "twist rudder" doesn't work as well, it is more muted (and the ball in artificial airplane doesn't work at this setting.TIAWilliam

>I don't really think the prices have dropped that fast! There>are only the 8800 cards and the new ATI cards that are true>DX10.>>JimCheck out:http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList....And&Pagesize=50There are 5 or 6 PCIe DX10 cards listed in the 75-100 dollar price range. I wonder how good they are?Flt300z

Also as a side note, early speculation was that all DX10 cards would be very expensive, at least 500 dollars or more. A quick search over at newegg.com shows many DX10 cards in the 75-100 dollar range. I have a ATI X600 PCIe card (DX9), and am thinking about upgrading my card in the near future. I wonder if there is any reason not to get a DX10 card (in 75-150 dollar range), instead of a DX9, even though I will be running WinXp Pro with it for a while. The main reason I am thinking of upgrading video card, is so I can run AF and AA higher in FSX. ATI X600 will only support about 2x, then everything slows down too much if higher. Sorry if this should be in the HW Forum.Flt300ZDell Pentium D 3.0Ghz1.5GHZ DDR2 533 Memory160GB SATA 30/Gb/s19" Dell FP1907 MonitorATI X600 Graphics

I am also having skip/stutter (I did full-re-install). Frame rates are up. The stuttering seems worse than Pre-Sp1, and after I did a defrag, even worse again. I get stutters/pauses in level flight, ground is either stuttering, micro-stuttering, or even stops for like 1 sec. Stutters/stops worse in turns or during landing (before touchdown), which makes sense. I have turned down options quite low, and turned autogen completely off. Very little if any stutter change.I am thinking about going back to Pre-SP1, just to see. Has anyone tried the "remove SP1 patch" in the add-remove programs. I may try that, just to see if I am remembering wrong, and stuttering was similar before SP1. Then, in thoery, just "re-appy" SP1 patch, if I want to return to SP1, right, LOL. BTW, my hat is off to ACES, I know they worked their b*tts off on this patch, and some folks are having great great results. Actually, if I skip the big Airports, I was happy Pre-Sp1, I may go back to that till I get a better vid card or a better system.Flt300zDell Pentium D 3.0Ghz1.5GB DDR2 MemoryATI X600 Video Card160GB WD SATA 3.0GB/s19" Dell FP1907

The 7.4 cats was the version that AA didn't work for me. I went back to the 7.1, it worked for my X600- I haven't tried the cat 7.2 or 7.3 versions.

>>>Could it be hardware related? I'm have an Radeon X1300 Pro>>with 7.4 Catalysts.>>>>Chris>>I'll answer my own question... I found the source, at least I>think I did. When I turn AA on in the game and turn it off in>the CCC the FPS drops off considerably in VC (2D is fine). >When I use AA from the CCC only, FPS is very consistent>(around 30 fps - locked @ 30) in VC. The crappy thing is that>using AA through CCC doesn't look that great even if I go up>to 6X AA.>>Why is that?>>Chris>I have a ATI X600 card. I notice the same thing you mention. I had to go to an earlier version of Catalyst to get the AA (set in Card Software), to work in FSX. I am not sure if this started with SP1, or is the later ATI CC's. I notice the download size are smaller for versions after the ATI January version. I used the earlier version released in Jan 2007 at ATI site, and it works. On the latest CCC (Apr 2007), I could set the AA to 6X and run FSX and it did pretty much nothing, jagged lines everywhere. Setting AA in FSX caused too much stuttering and performance hit for my PC/Video card combo. I need to get a better video card.Dell PentiumD 3.0GHZ1.5GB DDR2 MemoryATI X600 Video19"Dell FP1907 Monitor