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To be honest I don't really care much about the extended visibility while I fly with HDR on and using the right art controls, at high altitude the lighting and haze look pretty realistic in my opinion, especially in compare to fsx/p3d where the visibility is high but not realistic at all because the lack of atmospheric scattering..the only real issue that keep me away from x plane is the lack of a decent weather engine and unrealistic clouds, those are a real show stopper.. Anyway with the statement on the blog about fog and the focus on the mobile platform for a long time now I pretty much lost all hope, its a shame, with hd mesh, photoscenry and world2xplane there is so much potential for a great sim

I'm really interrested in the quality of the upcoming european Photo scenery providing by MSE, not only the constistent of resolution, up especially about the constistent of colour (correction). A lot of (freeware) sources use fragmentent data collection, what will result in very obvious changes in color/season and will ruin the flight experience. Does MSE use some kind of color correction to smooth that kind of changes?

Yes, I'm experience exactly the same as you have, maybe it's a error in the service pack, because i'm sure I didn't face this problem before I installed this servicepack.

I tried all kinds of settings and the highest I could go was a BCLK of 208 (running at 3,95Ghz)with a RAM speed of 1664Mhz, but only with timings of 8-8-8-20, the only stable 7-7-7-20 timing would be with 1230Mhz. I tried FSX with this setting and get 18FPS (la guardia) with high settings except AI traffic (20%). For the fun I lowered my CPU multiplier to the lowest (12x) to run at 2,49Ghz, and I only lose 5pfs! on the same setting in FSX. Is it normal to only gain so little with a overclock like this? sorry if my english is a little confusing :(

With 20 multiplier I also get a stable overclock, but the memory frequenty is even lower since my BLCK have to be lower as well, so the difference is that I have run my 7-7-7-20 memory at 1230Mhz instead of 1600Mhz, (I get a boot error if I raise my memory multiplier from 6x to 8x)that is not really the result I was hoping for and still have the question what is the best scenario, better timings or better frequenty. It seems my memory can't run on it design speed and timings. Also the strange thing is my cpuz is showing a modelnumber of CM3x2G1600C7D, while the actually memory modules are TR3X6G1600C7D (I opened my case to check it myself).

I set the multiplier to 19 and 17, (21 is impossible with a 920 and turbo off) but i had to raise the BCLK way too far with a multiplier 17 to get a decent OC (I think the QPI link speed was too high in this setting) but at 19 I managed to get it running stable with a BCLK of 205 running at 3,89Mhz. I had to lower the system memory multiplier to 6x to get the 7-7-7-20 timings, so the memory frequenty is underclocked at 1230Mhz. So I guess my RAM doesn't like the combination between 7-7-7-20 timings and more then 1230MHz. Strange because my memory should get 1600Mhz. So what is the best scenario, A higher memory frequenty or higher timings? Or try to higher the RAM voltage to 1,660v even I know the warning i never should go over 1,65 (i can only choose 1,64 or 1,66). On Default it boots normal, the strange thing is the default settings give me a 'default' timing of 8-8-8-20, while the memory is 7-7-7-20.

The first thing I tried was to lower the multipliers to minimums with the CPU multiplier to 18x, to see what my highest BCLK would be and put the voltages as suggested, also put the RAM timings back to 7-7-7-20, but even without raising the BCLK and the suggested voltages I get a boot failure, so I had to CMOS the motherboard. Put everything on Default again. I tried FSX and at some busy airport I get 12 fps. Then I overclocked to my previous overclock at 3,9Ghz since I knew it was stable, I start FSX with the same situation and only get 14fps. I wonder now if all this overclocking is worth it. De default of my RAM was 8-8-8-20 in the Bios, While in cpuz my RAM have a classification of 7. Or I'm doing something very wrong here or I have some bad memory controller.

This is my setting right now with the 8-8-8-20 setting:Core i7 920 >3,9Ghz (BCLK 195)QPI=7,02Mhz (x36)Uncore 3120Mhz(x16)Memory Frequenty 1560CAS 8-8-8-20 (original 7-7-7-20)Load line Calibration=DisabledVcore=1,3350VQPI/VTT=1,335VDRAM=1,640VCPU PLL=1,880VIOH,ICH=AUTOTurbo, EIST and HT Disabled1 hour Stresstest with OCCT max 67C.Bios is F7 (latest from Gigabyte)My memory is CM3x2G1600C7DI pushed the QPI to the highest and Vcore to almost 1,400V but still get a boot error while the timings were still 7-7-7-20 even with a overclock of 3,5Ghz. I didn't wanna push it up much higher and with timings of 8-8-8-20 I can have a 'normal' overclocking experience. You think it is a bad memory controller? So what is the best, leave it like this or go back to the 7-7-7-20 setting with a overclock of 3,6Ghz instead of 3,9Ghz? or try something else? I'm not sure about the IOH and ICH voltage settings, I didn't touch them.

Since my new build I experience some issue's if I wanna overclock my Core i7 920, I cannot have a stable boot with a higher BCLK then 180. I did all kind of experiments with voltages, but no luck. Today I did try to higher the timings of my RAM to 8 instead of 7. With this setting I can clock up to 3,9Ghz, but I remember clearly the explanation from Nick about memory timing, when I fire up FSX I do get a little higher framerates but also the occasional stutters (I don't know if it is the same or worse), but too high timings are not good for FSX I guess since I use a lot of photoreal textures. Should I buy some better RAM too get a better performance or should i change some other setting with this setup? Maybe higher the RAM voltage to 1,66v instead of 1,64v with a timing of 7-7-7-20? I'm kinda clueless now after read a lot of forums so hopefully I can get some advice.

Finally managed to get my new system up and running at 3,6Ghz, but i was aiming for 3,8Ghz for better performance including higher RAM speeds, but it seems to be stuck at this speed (i can't boot if i raise the BCLK higher then 180). These are my settings:CPU Clock Ratio*..............................:20CPU Frequency .....(Ghz)...................:3.6Intel® Turbo Boost Tech..................:DisabledCPU Cores Enabled............................:ALLCPU Multi Threading..........................: DisabledCPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)...................:DisabledC3/C6/C7 State Support....................:DisabledCPU Thermal Monitor.........................:EnabledCPU EIST Function............................: DisabledVirtualization Technology...................:Enabled (disabled give me a unstable system)Bi-Directional PROCHOT.....................:DisabledUncore & QPI Features [Press Enter]QPI Link Speed*..............................:x36QPI Link Speed* .............(Ghz)....... :6.48Uncore Frequency...........................:x16Uncore Frequency..............(Mhz).... :2880 MhzIsochronous Support.......................:EnabledBCLK Frequency (Mhz)*...................:180PCI Exxpress Frequency (Mhz)...........:AUTOC.I.A.2..........................................:Disabled>>>>>Standard Clock ControlCPU Clock Drive (mV).......................:800mVPCI Express Clock Drive (mV)............:900mVCPU Clock Skew (ps)........................:0psIOH Clock Skew (ps)........................:0psPerformance Enhance......................:StandardExtreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.)........:DisabledSystem Memory Multiplier (SPD)........:x8Memory Frequency (Mhz).................:1440DRAM Timing Selectable (sPD) ..........:ManualChannel A Timing Settings [Press Enter]>>>>>Channel A Standard Timing ControlCas Latency Time...........................:7tRCD............................................:7tRP..............................................:7tRAS............................................:20>>>>CPU VoltagesLoadLine Calibration.....................:Disabled (Enable also give me boot error when higher the BCLKCPU Vcore.................................:1.33750v (tried also 1.38500v but still boot error)QPI/VTT Voltage.........................:1.315VCPU PLL.....................................:1.880v >>>>>MCH/ICH VoltragePCIE.........................................:auto QPI PLL.....................................:auto IOH Core...................................:autoICH I/O.....................................:auto ICH Core...................................:auto>>>>>DramDRAM Voltage............................:1.640vDRAM Termination.......................:AutoCh-A Data Vref...........................:AutoCh-B Data Vref...........................:AutoCh-C Data VRef..........................:AutoCh-A Address Vref......................:AutoCh-B Address Vref.......................:AutoCh-C Address VRef......................:AutoI just wonder if my CPU (DO stepping) is only able of running at 3,6Mhz or is it a setting I set incorrect, because raising the Vcore and QPI voltage didn't improve any stable overclock higher then 3,6Mhz. I'm thinking about the auto setting of the PCIE/QPI PLL and IOC core voltages or the RAM timing i should raise to 8, but i guess that would make it only worse, I need some expert opinion what I can try. Framerates and smoothness are not too well at bigger airports (around 14fps) and lots of photoreal terrain right now. Of course I followed Nick's guide to set up the system and FSX.

I just updated my system coming from a Athlon 4000+, I have the same problem with the black square box for about 2 seconds approaching any airport and find it very annoying, i know this is a older post but i just wanna know if people have experienced this with up to date hardware.

Thanks for the suggestion, what do you think is better in performance, the 1750 cas 7 or 1400 and cas 6, or is it just try & error on that one?

I'm looking at a new rig mainly for FSX with use of lots of fs9/fsx photoreal scenery, REX and some other airport addons:Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD5 Intel Core i7 i7-920 / Thermalright Ultra-120 eXtreme 1366Corsair Dominator 6 GB DDR3 - 1600 MHz - CL7 ( 7-7-7-20 ) MSI N285GTX SuperPipe OC GF GTX 285WD Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS (1x)WD VelociRaptor WD3000HLFS (2x)Corsair TX750W Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Gamer 24-bits - 192 kHz - 109 dB SNRAntec Twelve HundredNow my question is if this setup is good enough to run without any hassle in high settings, is 1600mhz RAM a overkill for a core i7 920 and is it better to have a lower mhz RAM with better CL timings. I've read postings by NickN but it's still not clear. I'm planning to OC to at least 3.5Ghz on the core i7. thanks in advance.

It's a nice feature for sure, it's just too bad the distance of the lights is not so far, especially when flying a little higher, and it seems thereis no way to increase that distance.