bangoman

I think your 10700k will bottleneck the 4080 https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/y0a903/10700k4080_bottleneck/ If you're getting a 13900k then you might as well get the 4090 and blow the bank LOL

Fabulous card for MSFS2020. 1440p ultra flight over the Thames from EGLC to EGLL at 55-60fps in a Cessna, 45-55fps in an A320. Paired with a Ryzen 5500. GPU bound. Doesn't work at all with Xplane though 😞

The madlad did go for the 4090 (as per vonduck's sig) - good man!

I have a Samsung HMD Odyssey+ (https://www.samsung.com/us/support/computing/hmd/hmd-odyssey/hmd-odyssey-plus-mixed-reality/) and an almost identical setup to you (5600x/3080ti/3600 RAM/NR200 ITX). It's very smooth. The only caveat is that headset is an older one with lower resolution (2880 X 1,600). The quest 2 is 3664 x 1920, the Vive Pro 2 is 4896 x 2448 and the Reverb G2 is 4320 x 2160. I've also considered going from the 5600x to a 5800x/5900x and upgrading my VR headset. Been researching for about 6 months now. My current opinion is that the few extra 200-300 CPU MHz aren't going to increase the FPS significantly as the resolution increases based on 4k numbers - it becomes more GPU dependent. In OP's situation, I would jump in with a current gen headset and see how it goes. If it's not great, then downgrade to a prev gen headset like my Odyssey. Another caveat - I don't use any add ons. It looks great in vanilla FS2020, which is great for an "eye candy flight". I prefer X-plane for actual practice flying though, so resolution doesn't matter so much to me.

Yup 3060ti works well with a 5600x at 1440p. Probably the sweet spot for that res. The YouTube videos represent the realistic FPS well. Of course depends on the aircraft/location but I get mostly 45-50 fps doing EGLC-EGLL in a 152 with steam gauges low level along the Thames. In the TBM with a glass cockpit it drops to 35-40 fps but it's still smooth and I wouldn't notice the FPS drop unless I had the FPS counter running. My 3060ti is a Gaming X Trio which is total overkill for that level of card. Although it is basically silent. My advice would be to get the cheapest one you can find. Pay a premium for silence though. I reckon the EVGA 3060ti XC3 hits the mark - nice and small, only needs one 8 pin power connector. (NB I stumbled upon a 6800xt in stock in my local shop so I impulse (!) bought that a couple of weeks ago. It's only an extra 5-10 fps in pancake 1440p but the real gain for me is in VR. The 6800xt beats the 3060ti by a country mile. Only thought I'd mention that in case this post doesn't jive with my post history)

Happy with my 3060Ti at 1440p. Get about 25fps in FS2020 on ultra (except for 80% render scaling) on a 152 flight from EGLC to EGLL. The G1000 enabled 172 drops it to about 20 fps but still smooth and looking lovely. Airliners might be a different matter though! I get about 35-40 fps in the 172 in XP 11.50 (Vulkan API), everything maxed. I haven't done any deep analysis but I feel like my 3700x might be struggling to keep up. Either need FS2020/XP11 to start using more cores or maybe I should side grade to the 5600x for more IPC and outright GHZ.

This is Clarkdale i3-540 not Lynnfield. I just followed the FSXMark11 instructions to the letter. Excuse my ignorance, I'll have to look up AM=5/AM=9 lol HT is off for the 4140mhz OC'd i3-540. I can't get much past 3800mhz with HT on. What is neat is that the whole system fits into a Silverstone SG02, making for a great LAN box (no LAN gaming with FSX though!). It doesn't need a big cooler as I'm not doing any overclocking.

Some testing I did to answer my question of which setup should be in the FSX rig - i3-540 @ 4140mhz or a stock i5-3470. (X-posted from my thread) The i5-3470 + B75 mobo + 16gb RAM was about CA$350 with taxes and shipping (about $310 sans taxes/s&h). The lowest for a K-series CPU in Canada? There was a deal for a 3570k + mobo for $299+tax so $50 for RAM = $350+HST = $395-ish. For an FSX specific build, K series all the way but I thought this would be useful to see some "regular" hardware in action.

The answer to the question nobody asked So I had a chance to benchmark the two setups. Sorry for the non std pictures, I used Google docs. IB > OC Clarkdale. Swapping the mobo/CPU didn't play nicely with Win7 so a fresh install was done for the i5-3470. And therefore a fresh install of FSX for each setup and the FSXMark instructions followed to the letter. Overall I'm pretty happy with the IB setup. B75 mobo, i5-3470 CPU and 16gb DDR3-1600 RAM was about $350 including taxes and shipping. Of course if buying specifically for FSX, I would've stumped up the extra $100 or so all in for a suitable K-series CPU and motherboard.

Thanks for the reply. I'll have to dig through the FSXmark11 thread to find your benchmarks but that is encouraging. I haven't flown with 3 screens yet as I'm re-overclocking my i3-540 - it seems I've "lost" about 0.3Ghz over it's two years of abuse.

If you have a bit of time, hold out for a better price on the GTX670. I got it in a sale for $309 (Canadian) and I'm seeing current prices around $350. Edit: I'm talking about the vanilla/reference GTX670. I see you're going got the FTW edition which my comment is irrelevant. Not sure the extra clocks are beneficial for FSX but of course people use their PC's for other games too!

Hi thanks for sharing. It's always good to see how the alternatives to Intel are doing. I remember when AMD was king with the XP series while Intel was floundering with P4. I just want to understand the multithread/CPU screenshot above. #1 is at 95% and seems to be doing most of the work for FSX. The other 7 cores/threads are above 25%. What are they doing? I thought there wasn't a big benefit to many cores in FSX.

Thanks for posting! Great to see some of the high end Intel stuff in action. I'd love to see an FSXmark11 run but I guess it's a hassle as you have to do a fresh FSX install. So if I want to bimble around and fly the stock 172 with no add ons, I shouldn't bother waiting for Haswell and just get an IB setup now?

Thanks for the comprehensive reply! Sorry, my time comment was more relating to doing some proper benchmarks with the two setups, and not having the time to do repeated clean installs etc.. I've almost convinced myself to move the i5 into my desktop PC - esp when I throw Photoshop and Adobe Premiere into the mix.

Hi, I've never tried OC'ing with HT turned on - all the guides say turn it off. I've never really benchmarked or really taken notice of HT. I'm already of the arbitrary opinion that the 2 extra threads of HT don't contribute anything useful. Other considerations/things going through my mind: - Faster (1600mhz) RAM with the IB CPU - I remember a thread around here describing the difference fast RAM makes. - PCI 3.0 - ??? better bandwidth between CPU and GPU. - Higher IPC for IB. What if I could OC the BCLK to get high 3's on the i5-3470 (like 3.8ghz). How would that change the comparison? I don't have much spare time at the moment otherwise I would try both and report back.