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FSDT is one of the best payware companies out there.  I own every one of their sceneries and GSX, the only problem I ever had was this couatl thing, but like I said, we cant say for sure that couatl is the sole cause of the crash.   I was really speaking to the CRJ and Flight1 crap payware I wasted money on, in that last post.  I should have made it clearer as it seemed i lumped everyone in together.

4 minutes ago, tooting said:

 No one is ever going to admit to it. It harms sales simple as that. 

This is the issue here

Ain't that the truth!  Too much work for simple fixes in most of that payware.  But exorbitant pricing to mediocre/broken releases is just fine.

Just now, ErichB said:

Is Couatl the cause of this?

It could be a combination of many things.  I don't want to say for sure that it is solely couatl causing the crashes.  It can be a combination of couatl and another module?  Who knows......  but for me the method of killing couatl in task manager keeps crashes away.

For me, whenever I do a western Atlantic crossing, I end Couatl in task manager and never have a crash.  I have tried the restart method, but have had crashes.  The only foolproof way for me is to fully kill the module from task manager.  No ground services at arrival airport is better than an annoying crash.  

10 minutes ago, B777ER said:

. All I know is as long as I restart coualt prior to my flights, I don't get this CTD anymore.

Hmm i never tried to just restart couatl and try the flight.  Going to test that later.  So basically what you do is use gsx at the departure airport, and then reset it before departure thru the P3d menu?

53 minutes ago, tooting said:

But they won't admit there's an issue because it's only effecting some people.  

yea I won't hold my breath....I was once told to reinstall windows to fix the problem.  Still laughing at that one.

55 minutes ago, tooting said:

Like I said though you guys are doing an amazing job.  It seems to be coutl,  that's the issue, why... Who knows maybe all the abp and afcads that orbx Vector has. 

If it wasn't for Eric, Kyle, and Zinnertek bringing up couatl as a possible cause, I would have never wasted 2 vacation days to actually test the theory, so thanks guys.

Hopefully, it is a "fix" for everyone.

Did one more flight last night with HOIST FP/Couatl off at 1x just to be sure....landed about 20 minutes ago.

There is a conflict somewhere, is it couatl's fault? Is it Vector?  Is it something else we hadn't thought of? A combination?  Can't really answer that until someone with much more technical knowledge than me can say for sure.

What I do know is killing couatl in task manager works for me.

Now we need more tests from others to confirm my findings.

Well I have no idea.  Those we're my findings from the tests. If someone else can answer that for you, great.  What I know is now I can fly the pond westbound without the annoying crash.  If anyone can figure out what the interaction is between the two would be the icing on the cake.  I've run about 10 flights the past 2 days....couatl off Vector on no crash.  Couatl on vector off no crash.  Couatl on vector on crash.  Reason?  No clue.

Ok,

8x to 150 dme HOIST, then 1x, Orbx Vector off, couatl on, just crossed HOIST intersection no crash.

Now all we need is some more people to experiment with this to see if we all get the same results.

8x to about 150 dme HOIST, down to 1x, now on the STAR for JFK.  No crash.

Next test i'm going to try will be with only Orbx Vector off  and couatl on. 

Results soon.

Just now, Bardia said:

Could be a conflict but that would be fairly easy to check. Fly the west-bound HOIST route that you once crashed with couatl running but this time disable everything ORBX-related in your scenery library. See what happens. 

Just took off from EDDF with PMDG B77W to KJFK on the HOIST FP with couatl off.  Gonna try what you suggested after I complete this flight.

4 hours ago, Bardia said:

I only have GSX out of all their products and experienced the crash so can’t be anything to do with the airports but rather the GSX itself. 

Yeah, Couatl is the scripting engine.  It is installed with any FSDT product.  Like you said, I don't think it is the airports themselves causing the crash, but the scripting engine.  However though, like I said in a previous post, i never had this problem in v3 with the only difference being I had no ORBX products installed in v3 (was using the Flight1 stuff in V3).  So maybe there is a conflict?  Again, this is just a guess.

 I have done about 6 westbound pond crossings 3 with HOIST.  One of the HOIST flights had couatl running and crashed, the 2 other HOIST flights were fine.  The other 2 flight plans I tried were flown with waypoints just south of HOIST.  One came in through ELSIR, one from RIKAL, the last, a bit more north through PORGY.  All in the vicinity of HOIST and with couatl not running I had no crash.  In total 6 flights 5 with no couatl all landed.  I am starting one flight now  gonna go thru HOIST again no couatl, results in a bit

Im still on 4.1.  I never had this problem in V3 though which is weird.  Although, the difference with V3 was that I did not use any Orbx products.  So maybe couatl and Orbx are interfering?  Just a guess.

Flew the HOIST FP this morning again with couatl running, 1x all the way....just crashed with ntdll error.

Crashed about 110 dme HOIST

i guess it is couatl, without it OK, with it crash.

Flew the HOIST FP overnight 1x no COUATL....no crash EDDF-KIAD PMDG B744

last test will be HOIST FP again with couatl running.  

2nd Flight

Closed Couatl.exe in task manager LFPG-KBOS PMDG B77W all Orbx, Activesky, no couatl

FP  EVX UT300 SENLO UN502 PIKOD N502 RATKA DCT ATSUR DCT SOMAX 5120N 5230N 5240N 5150N ALLRY N358A EBONY DCT AJJAY OOSHN5 (NAT J) 

8x to 5150N 1x rest of way

again no crash

About to hit TOD...

looks like couatl might be it....will wait to see if everyone else has same results

will try one more FP with HOIST intersection after to be absolutely sure it's not just a fluke

So I killed couatl.exe in task manager and started a flight with this FP EIDW-KJFK PMDG B77L all ORBX Activesky no couatl 

SUROX DCT ERNAN DCT KUGUR DCT BILTO DCT 57N020W 57N030W 57N040W 55N050W DCT MELDI N498C TAFFY DCT ENE PARCH2

8x until 5550N then 1x

flew over the canadian coast no problem, crossing ENE now for the STAR..

might just be couatl

First westbound crossing without a CTD....will test again with another FP after this flight is done, just to be sure.

i had the route saved and have crashed on same exact route

4 minutes ago, ayarov said:

Cold War Tactics even in the Flight Sim Community, how sad...

yeah it's demoralizing to say the least.

1 minute ago, ganter said:

I'm sure Jim felt sufficiently motivated to make his original post - and I for one, applaud him for doing so. I'm sure we can all be friends - united in our simulator activities - so let's get on with doing just that.

 

I agree, the name thing is something AVSIM should be rightly concerned about, but don't make false allegations that something nefarious is going on at the other site, with no evidence to prove it.  That's all i'm saying.

21 hours ago, Jim Young said:

Be very careful when downloading files from AVSIM.ru or AVSIM.su.

Why?  That's the point i'm trying to make.  This statement alone can deter people from visiting the site for themselves, and getting some great scenery/repaints for Asia/Russia.  

Again...no one is disputing the name thing.  What I am saying is that you are assuming that the site is dangerous when, in fact, there is no evidence to support this.  If all you said in the first post was that Avsim.su is in no way affiliated with Avsim.com would have been perfectly fine. 

It's the subtle placement of those statements in that first post that I focused on, and others did also.  

1 hour ago, Jim Young said:

I see nothing wrong with the sites other than the name and just making sure that our community is aware the sites are not the property of AVSIM's

That's all you had to say.  Making the community aware of the similar names with no affiliation to your site is something everyone should know.  Adding stuff like the first quote, does not really help anyone, when in fact there is no danger in visiting the site.  

Suspicion does not give you the right to just make stuff up.  You even go on to say that you have no idea what they do on those sites.  

If you don't know what they do on "those sites", what on earth gives you the right to make false accusations?  

I wonder, was it just a case of spreading disinformation to keep people away from those sites, just because they use "your" name?  <--suspicion....must be true

Comrade......funny.

Love that midlife crisis mobile!

Careful of what exactly?  Never had a problem with any download ever from them.

just like that....nice shot!

Perfect!  Second flight...fluid FPS.  a true Gem

Boring is the least of it.  Obnoxious also comes to mind.

Yeah i gotta say, the best PTA preset i've tried.  

Toumba looks great in those pics.

Thanks for the great preset

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Going to try it right now,  also can you share your brightness bloom settings in p3d v4.  Thank You!