fognozzle

Thanks for the responses. I am very impressed with the videos, and I have played with the settings in XP II, and I can see some improvements and the interaction between the scenery quality and frame rates. I suspect that I'm not going to get much more out of my old 2019 iMac. I now need to decide between XP 12 and MSFS. It looks like my requirements are best met in Windows, and this needs a complete new machine. I still have more testing to do with the VFR folks in VATPAC before I decide on Windows, because everything else I do is in MACOS, and I've got to purchase a laptop for travel later this year. Looks like it may be one machine for good simming at home and another machine for travel and everything else. I had been considering giving up on real flying, but this gear could be expensive enough to change my mind. Foggiest

Having just spent most of the last 4 days getting any sim to work to my satisfaction on my hardware, I've arrived at XP 11 running in Win 10 on an iMac with the Radeon Pro 570 X GPU. I am very happy with the performance of XP 11 , but I am disappointed with Auto Ortho. The main problem is: I don't know what I was supposed to experience. What is it really supposed to look like? The next problem is: I predominantly fly VFR and use the sim for rehearsing my real world flights in regional Victoria, Australia, so I need reasonably accurate terrain, roads, railways, power lines, buildings, airports and buildings for a reasonably accurate experience. Also I like to add in my own VFR reporting points and landmarks. What is the best answer, or isn't there one? I've read through a long post on visuals and I saw lots of acronyms that I don't understand, and I saw references to Orbx True Earth, FENIX, SimHeaven and DCS. Will any of these do what I need? I'd appreciate any advice on these before I spend days and days installing each only to find that they don't deliver. Thanks in advance Foggy

Update: I rolled back my graphic card driver, uninstalled Dokan, uninstalled C++ Runtimes, re-installed winFS and disconnected my second monitor and it all works now.

When I run auto Ortho, I get a brief flash of a small black screen and then nothing. I've uninstalled it and installed it again and the result is the same. what should I do? Foggy

Thanks Jim, I don't know how you worked that out from all that data, but you were right. FSX works fine now, even with all of my add-ons going. Foggnozzle

I don't have any really serious regrets, although windows 8 is providing 8 crashes to desktop per hour at the moment. See posts in the CTD section. But why am I telling you this? I am really excited about REX Latitude. Since taking up real flying, I have been shocked by how much FSX is unlike the real world, and it IS! all about consequences. I'd love to get into Latitude, but while I am experiencing 8 crashes of FSX per hour, I will hold off. However, I am very interested to hear of others' opinions of Latitude, while I await an answer to my win 8 instability. Cheers Fognozzle

I am running FSX plus Acceleration under win 8 64 bit on an intel core 2 duo running at 2.4 GB, with 6 G RAM and 120 G HDD. FSX ran perfectly on this machine under XP. 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this would be most appreciated. I will even fly with you for more than half a minute! Fognozzle