As an interesting footnote to the conversation, after the Asiana crash in SFO a year ago, the NTSB recommended more "hands-on" landing time for tube-liner pilots. The ILS was out at SFO due to maintenance and the autothrottle was mismanaged by the pilots (some blame boeing's confusing design), but it was a visual approach and all the professional pilots on board did not manage it well and were not able to recognize the approach was not stabilized. They clearly had relied on automation to the point of degradation in their raw flying skills. It would be interesting if 1 out of 10 approaches (in sim) were visual approaches flown by hand. Flying a visual approach is a real world challenge for real world pilots as landing systems do go out or are put out of service for maintenance. Only in the sim world are the ILS and other landing aids 'unrealistically' always available.