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Yesterday I was approaching to Madeira Fuchal airport LPMA

I was follofing the STAR LIDRO 1C

ATC asked me to enter the hold on the fix MA532. 

The fix MA532 was also the active waypoint at about 50NM from my PPS

I was able to select the MA532 wpt but when I pressed the HOLD button on the FMC I was unable to activate the MA532 fix.

There was already a fix for the HOLD...the MA514 (that was later on my route)

I tried many times to change the fix to MA532 but I was unable...also setting a new WPT before the active WPT (not to have the MA532 as the active wpt)..but I was still unable.

Once I was closer to the MA532...I do not know why...I was finally able to select and assign the new fix in the HOLD setting the correct MA532.

The question is:

Why I was unable to change/assign the fix immediately? Why to wait until I was close to the wpt?

Is there a relation between setting the FIX and the distance from the fix?

Thank you.

Regards,

Stefano

Good morning,

I have a question for the real pilots...

Yesterday I was flying from ENGM to EGCC...over the north sea I found a very strong crosswind at my cruising altitude (34000 ft): >150 kts coming from my 2/3 o'clock.

To mantain my course, the heading has been corrected by the autopilot of >25° to the right.

The aircraft suffered a little turbulence (I do not know if the reason was a combined turbulence or an aerodynamic effect cause by the high difference heading/course).

The question is:

Is there a performace limit for the crosswind in the NGX (that is not an Hurricane explorer)?

What to do in term of SOP when a limit, if exists...is it exceeded?

22 hours ago, Olympic260 said:

This is the first time I hear of such voice message. There is no reason for us to have such a message. Might be something from fs2crew?

Just for you to know....

YES...it is a voice message referring to the PMDG product but generated by FS2crew.

It could happen if I open a saved situation where the aircraft is not set as FS2crew is expecting (eg Cold and Dark).

I usually open saved situations but all with the aircraft set in a cold and dark setup. This time, for test reasons, I opened the aircraft as set by PMDG by default and FS2crew launched the vocal message of error.

Nothing to do with PMDG itself.

I really do not know...I will ask to FS2crew...but the sentence starts with PMDG so I posted also here

Just for you to know.

PMDG has answered telling me to uninstall that access database module (via win 10 control panel) .

The module has been probably installed by the PMDG also if it is a feature not existing for the NGX (for future possible expansions).

I unistalled it and restarted the PC.

All seems to work properly with the exception of a voice that randomly says, out of my speakers, something similar to  "PMDG has found an SDK error please contact FS2crew".

Not always, only sometimes ...but for the rest FS2crew works properly.

49 minutes ago, Olympic260 said:

Stefano. As I wrote the solution is simple. Uninstall it from your add/remove programs. Again if it is installed by us it would be due to RAAS module, the fact that you do not see RAAS operational in the NGX does not mean it is not installed in the background.

Chris, I have seen that you have answered the PMDG ticket...so I reply here to inform the community too.

I  have unistalled the Access Database 2010 (spanish) module via the win 10 control panel and now:

- after a computer restart: word and excel start without errors

- P3D V4.3 open starts errors

- if I load a scenario with a PMDG saved,  PMDG NGX can be loaded but sometimes (?) I get a voice out of my speakers saying something like........"PMDG has found an SDK error...please contact FS2crew". (or similar...I Just heard it two times randomly)

But FS2crew seems to work properly.

What does it mean that voice? how to switch it off?

By the way....following your indication now the MSoffice issue has been solved.

Thank you

Another post in the PMDG forum to be taken into consideration.

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Posted September 11, 2017 by SKYSTAR

I do have an issue with the spanish Access Database Engine 2010 64Bit too.

But I don't have the PMDG 777 installed!!!

I'm not able to install the Office 2010 Pro 32Bit, due to a Setup-Error.

The Access Databese Engine appears to be installed on my computer on the 08/19/2017.

On the same day, I had the following other Addons installed:

• A2A C128
• A2A Commanche 250
• JustSim EDDH
• JustSim EDDL
• PMDG 737-8900 (the same as me)
• PMDG 737-6700

I don't have any PS2Crew installed.

This is already my 2nd PC setup in 4 weeks, as I ran into the "Spanish Access" before, wenn I installed the MS-Office 2010 first and got the error messages when all of my P3DV4 Addons were installed.

Ralf

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FS2crew was not in the list ...whilst PMDG NGX is existing.

So the question remains....IS PMDG COMPLETELY SURE THAT THE ACCESS MODULE IS NOT INSTALLED BY THE NGX PRODUCT?

If yes...what to do considering that uninstalling that module seems to create bigger problems to P3D V4?

7 minutes ago, byork said:

My guess is you may have installed RAAS 64 bits somewhere at sometime, then uninstalled it and forgot about it.

There's a theoretical chance that another addon installed the Spanish language version of the Microsoft Access Database engine, but that's a very, very remote chance.

At any rate, just do as PMDG suggested, and uninstall the Microsoft Access database engine via the Control Panel.

Problem solved.

 

Before 14th october I had the P3D V3.4 with PMDG NGX (no 747, 777, ...) and FS2crew NGX NO RAAS. 

...and no problems too 🙂

The issue started immediately after the installation of P3D 4.3 + PMDG NGX (same product) +

26 minutes ago, byork said:

As mentioned, only RAAS (64 Bit) uses the Microsoft Access Database Engine.

The regular FS2Crew (flight crew simulation program) does not.

As the guy who built the installer, I can say this with 1000 percent certainty 🙂

RAAS comes for free with the Aerosoft Airbus, Aerosoft CRJ, PMDG 777 and PMDG 747.

Did you install the Aerosoft Airbus by chance?

Why not just uninstall the Microsoft Access Database engine (64 bit) via the Control Panel?

 

IN parallel with our polite conversation, I am doing the same with PMDG.

The last post by a developer says that the NGX 737 does not have any RAAS module (not the same for the 777 and 747) but he has to finally ask to the responsible of the installation package to check it.

I have installed only PMDG NGX  and A2A cherokee.

(+ EZcam, orbx products, GSX lev2)

2 hours ago, Olympic260 said:

Stefano, if NGX installs the Spanish DB engine it would be only if RAAS was included with that product.  There is no other reason for the NGX or any of our products to install this. I need to check with the developer who does the installers if for any reason the RAAS installer was included in the NGX for any reason.

Your reasonament is clear and I agree with it...but, as you says...it is not the definitive answer that has to be addressed to a PMDG developer.

The same could be said for FS2crew....because I DID NOT BUY THE FS2CREW RAAS version ...so the answer could be the same as yours...but as we both know...sometimes some modules are installed without being used for future or  optional versions that unlock it. This could be valid for the FS2crew without RAAS or not. I do not know.

SO, to be sure it is better to have a definitive answer by the PMDG developer that knows what the NGX product installs on the disk. In this way we can definitive clarify where to better address the issue.

UPDATE:

the FS2crew developer that built the installation module of the product writes that the FS2crew without RAAS (the one I have) DOES NOT HAVE THE RAAS MODULE and do not require the Access Database module 2010 causing the issue.

It remains only PMDG that, by the way, I used in the 32bit version of P3D without any issue.

It remains also P3D V4....is it possible that P3D V4 is installing that module?

16 minutes ago, Olympic260 said:

RAAS is a program written by FS2Crew developers. We are using a locked version of it on the 777/744. It installs the 32 bit spanish access which is know to cause issues if users are having installed a 32bit office program. Besides deleting the 64 bit access that RAAS installs there is nothing we can do regarding this as this is not our program. Our recommendation is to speak with FS2crew developer.

Thank you Chris,

I have in parallel informed FS2crew and they are answering, Let me be very simple and clear and help me to address this issue to the correct developer:

Stating that I have installed only the PMDG 737 NGX,

can you confirmed that the PMDG 737 NGX product DOES NOT INSTALL ANY MICROSOFT ACCESS DATABASE ENGINE 2010 (SPANISH) MODULE?

IN this case, also if I have not purchased the FS2crew RAAS version, it is possible that FS2crew installed it also in the "base" product for the NGX.

Thank you again for your patiente.

20 minutes ago, byork said:

Microsoft Access Database engine is associated with the 64 bit version of RAAS only.

If you didn't install RAAS manually, then you got it when you installed the PMDG 777 or 747 (since RAAS comes with those two aircraft).

The Spanish is the just the localization language (my RAAS programmer speaks Spanish).

The English version is exactly the same, except the text is in English.

 

If you don't want to use RAAS, you should be able to uninstall 64 bit Microsoft Access Database engine.

Why not just upgrade to Office 64 bits?

 

 

I bought, as mentioned, the FS2crew 64bit NGX without RAAS...

And, I have installed only the NGX 737. The 737 does not have any RAAS module. (only the 777 that I do not have) as PMDG says

The consequence is that the microsoft database module has been installed by FS2crew, in a spanish version that I do not need (I have italian version of win64, and italian version of office)

I do not want to rise any dispute, I'd only like to solve my issue. The upgrade to Office 64 bt is not the cheapest one and, more thatn this, I read that it did not solve the issue too to other users.

42 minutes ago, Olympic260 said:

Stefano,

 

The NGX DOES NOT uses RAAS so I do not believe is something we install. You can go to the add/remove programs though and uninstall this particular  Microsoft Access installation.

Good morning Chris,

Yes I know it. RAAS is a feature of Fs2crw RAAS ....but It is absolutely not clear if this issue is related to RAAS. In my case, for example I have FS2Crew 64bit  WITHOUT RAAS...but the issue remains.

Reading the topic about the 777 you will read a post where a customer says that he has not FS2crew at all!. 

If it is confirmed, we could state that this is not an FS2crew problem.

Good morning,

I had:

- P3D v3.4

- PMDG NGX

- FS2Crew (without RAAS)

- A2A Cherokee

(plus ORBX, EZcam, ...)

AND

Microsoft Office Pro 32 bit (but with Access not installed)

All was working fine: I mean P3D and Microsoft Office

The 14, october 2018 I uninstalled P3D V3.4 and installed P3D V4, then

- PMDG NGX

- Fs2crew 64 bit version (without RAAS)

- A2A cherokee

DId not change anything in Microsoft Office.

After the new P3D + addons installation , when I try to launch any Office application installed (Excel/Word, Acces is not installed)

I get a Installation Error

(translated it means the same of the issue reported in the PMDG 777 forum)

In the post above it is not clear if the Microsoft Acccess database engine 2010 (Spanish) module has been installed by FS2crew or PMDG.

For sure it has been installed the same day I installed P3D V4 and all the other add ons.

The question is:

Are you aware of this issue? is the module installed by FS2Crew? If yes, Is there a way to esclude/unistall that Microsoft Access database engine (spanish) module without causing problems to both P3DV4 and Microsoft Office?

Thank you 

Good morning,

I had:

- P3D v3.4

- PMDG NGX

- FS2Crew (without RAAS)

- A2A Cherokee

(plus ORBX, EZcam, 

AND

Microsoft Office Pro 32 bit (but with Access not installed)

All was working fine: I mean P3D and Microsoft Office

The 14, october 2018 I uninstalled P3D V3.4 and installed P3D V4, then

- PMDG NGX

- Fs2crew 64 bit version (without RAAS)

- A2A cherokee

DId not change anything in Microsoft Office.

After the new P3D + addons installation , when I try to launch any Office application installed (Excel/Word, Acces is not installed)

I get a Installation Error

(translated it means the same of the issue reported in the PMDG 777 forum 

Reading the topic above it is stated that the issue is reported also by people NOT HAVING Fs2crew installed.

So it seems to be a PMDG issue, not a FS2Crew (anyway I have posted it also in the FS2Crew support forum).

Now the quuestion is:

More than one year has passed since that topic....

did PMDG analyzed this possible PMDG issue and find a solution?

Is there a way to esclude/unistall that Microsoft Access database engine (spanish) module without causing problems to both P3DV4 and Microsoft Office?

By the way, I do not know who (FS2crew or PMDG installed that Microsoft Access module but googling the issue  I have seen that the installation of such a module happens also to some other application not related to flight simming that during some updates install a 64bit module over 32bit Office application, causing the issue). 

Thank you,

Thank you Dan !

I am going to dismiss P3D V3.4 and to install P3D 4.3

I have a step by step guide to uninstall P3D 3.4

Then I will unistall also AS16 and other add ons.

But I am not sure about what to do with PMDG NGX.

Ideally I would like to uninstall it and then, reinstalling it with a clean installation in the new P3D 4.3

Am I right?

Thank you for your help.

Stefano

I am testing now...both the tear drop and the parallel entry.

but now I have another question to ask.
Suppose there is already another plane in HOLD.
If my entry is parallel, I will have a leg in the opposite direction to the direction of rotation of the hold.
In order not to collide with the other plane I will imagine both a vertical separation and an entry order in hold by the ATC. or not?
Or does the vertical separation suffice and can the entry also be parallel?

OOOhhhh...thank you all folks for the answer...I knew I would have found it immediately here.

I will test it immediately....!!!!!

you are right...but I did not take a screenshot...I will test do and post it.

Anyway I am quite sure I have set the hold pattern correctly (inbound leg, R/L turn, altitude, ...) but as soon as I have reached the waypoint simply the NGX turned into the opposite way.

Same thing happened yesterday to a VA friend during the same flight, same hold.

it was SAMOS  ...we were arriving from south and had to hold over the SAM VOR. Once over SAM instead of a right run...the aircraft turned left (opposite of the FMC setting that said to hold R)

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(I hope I did not violate any forum rule by posting this partial image. If I did I apologize)

This is the second time I have this issue:

I have the Hold page correctly set for the hold, I execute it and now is active.

When I reach the entry point ...instead of a right turn (as programmed) the NGX turns left.

It happened either having the entering path perfectly aligned with the inbound leg....either having it with a steep angle.

What am I doing wrong?

Thank you

Thank you Dan

on the display it is possible to see the wind direction/speed.

I know that it is a complicated an indirect calculation base on the informations derived by the meausing of the dynamic/static pressure/heading compared with the GPS measurements (to calculate groundspeed). The vectors analysys allows to know the wind direction/speed.

Now the question:

- What I see in the display is sometimes different (small difference) with the wind  direction/speed   readable on the FMC cruise page.

Why? Is it  a PMDG behaviour or does it happens also in in the real NGX?...is it due to a different source for the calculations?

Thank you.

The NGX tends to be "slippy" during the descend and it is difficult to slow down.
Yesterday I was descending to LEIB during a thunderstorm and the KIAS started to go up and down of 20+ knots.
Also trying to slow down the descent below 1000 fps with the speedbrakes up I was unable to slowdown and the green arrow sometimes took me in the overspeed zone.

Any idea or trick of how o handle the descend in such a situation, assuming that the PMDG is correctly simulating this high speed variation?

How do you do in rw?

19 minutes ago, Johannvr said:

I think the FMC SID navdata might be suspect. I checked Navigraph's PMDG SIDSTAR Navdata (AIRAC 1809) for EBBR SID DENUT6C off rwy25R and this line: "...TRK 244 UNTIL 700 TRK 297 INTERCEPT RADIAL 278 TO FIX D278J..." does not make sense. The "Intercept Radial 278" part does not relate to any fix, there should be a " from fix BUB" I think and the "to fix D278J" could further confuse the FMC. The part to intercept R278 BUB VOR, as part of the SID, can be substituted by the line "to fix D278J" in the FMC Navdata and no need for the "intercept radial" part. I suggest contact Navigraph and ask them to look into this.

I just notified Navigraph on their Support Forum and wait their response.

Interesting consideration. Let us know their answer.

thank you in advance.