MrBitstFlyer

Really - I didn't know there was such a thing?

My problem was having True earth installed for the Autogen. I have disabled that so I just have SimHeaven for the Autogen. I doubled clicked xRoads.exe to get the xRoads folder in the Custom scenery folder. I replaced the library.txt file with Ian's version and it worked fine. The roads do look a lot better. What add-ons are you using as one of them may be causing the issue?

Ok, my enthusiasm for my XP12 seems to be winding people up. I'll leave the thread.

There are things missing from default XP12 scenery, that are not missing from MSFS. Hey, I have loaded MSFS once since I installed XP12 so yes it is adequate for VFR navigation and pattern work, but it isn't perfect. I flew my second copy of XP12 which is default into a UK airfield. The AFE plate says not to fly over the church when turning base - the church isn't there in XP12 but it is there in MSFS. Many airfield plates mention details like this. All I saying is, from the perspective of an MSFS user, this detail may stop them from considering XP12. It doesn't affect me because I'm not worried about installing some ortho and addons so I do see the church in XP12.

I think I have been clear with my thoughts that XP12 would benefit from its own unique selling points that mitigates the lack of ortho. The new clouds and lighting have taken a big step forward as would a new 'SimHeaven' type product built in. I think that would get a lot more people using XP12. I am excited to see what Laminar have in the works for the terrain and autogen. I am not sure what you are hinting at with the rest of your post. I have been nothing but positive about XP12 in the last few weeks since moving over from MSFS. Multiple screen shots showing how good I have found XP12 to be. A long discussion on the MSFS forum on how much better XP12 is than what many think, describing an easy route to get XP12 to its best (from information gleaned here from helpful people). MSFS forum can be brutal at times, but I didn't think a comment like yours would be seen so soon over here.

Absolutely, I am excited to see what is down the road.

It maybe adequate, but not perfectly adequate. There is much to see in Ortho that isn't in default XP12 that is useful, especially in the circuit/traffic pattern, some of it referenced in airfield charts. In all the discussions I've had in forums, people will not consider XP12 because of the lack of Ortho and accurate building placement and size, despite this being available in addons.

I am obviously comparing to MSFS. 🤔😒

For accurate VFR navigation, default XP12 is missing a lot of landmarks which Satellite imagery supplies. One can't get away from the fact that worldwide satellite imagery and accurate building location & size have been with us for years - it can't be unseen. You may fly in such a way that Ortho and buildings are not important, but I suggest you are in the minority.

In a world where global satellite imagery and accurate building placement have existed in MSFS for years, users now expect that as the norm. These things aren't shiny new things to desire, they are now expected. In the absence of Satellite imagery, Laminar need to hook people in other ways. The new clouds and lighting are an excellent start, but not enough. Another bad initial impression are the trees and buildings which don't look part of the scene but just sit on top. A modernised SimHeaven built into the sim will do the job - and have shadows visible from height, just like MSFS, to help anchor building and trees to the terrain.

Surely they would use SpaceX?

I'm one of them, but it took a week of perseverance to realise just how good it was. I loaded up MSFS2024 today but didn't like it - I've been singing its praises since release! The atmosphere looked a bit 'dead' with perfect visibility and no haze at all. The clouds were sharper, but nowhere near as realistic as the XP12.02.RC1 clouds.

The demo looks awful against MSFS, but a configured XP12 with addons is better imho otherwise I would have gone back to MSFS. The discussion on the MSFS forum confirmed the individual I was talking to agreed it looked good, but why bother with addons when MSFS has them already!

A little weird - I copied your libary.txt into the xRoads folder, launched XP12 and it worked - no more autogen roads. On the next launch of XP12, all the autogen roads were back. Checked the library.txt and still the same. I copied and pasted the library.txt again and it worked. Every single second load of XP12, the autogen roads are back! xRoads at the very top of the scenery_packs.ini as instructed.

I'll give that a go thanks. At the moment I get to certain areas and XP12 crashes with a missing scenery message.