June 23, 200322 yr Does selecting the yaw damper just remove all rudder inputs? Paul :-)P.S. Can't wait for those high-resolution V.C. shots.
June 23, 200322 yr No. Pilot input is permitted.We have yaw dampeners on the Baron B-55 and you can still kick in the rudders if you want but the autopilot will buck right back. Now, this is cable pulley where the 737 is hydraulic. The safety feature for most autopilots (like the CRJ-50), will disconnect the autopilot after X amount of pressure is applied to the controls. Your command controller will disengage the autopilot as it assumed you are trying to take over the jet manually without being able to successfully disconnecting it via the master CMD electronic interface.The Baron lets go at 25 pounds.Here is an article on a 737 where the yaw dampeners were almost responsible for an accident. The dampeners won until they were turned off.http://www.cnn.com/US/9902/24/737.problem/I can say that the Baron will fight you unless you kick it in pretty good.I can
June 23, 200322 yr You also can find yourself in a battle with the auto throttle on the real 737NGs...[h5]Best Wishes,Randy J. Smith[/h5][h6]Are You Ready For The Next Great one? PMDG's 737NG is almost here![/h6][h3]" A little learning is a dangerous thing"[/h3] [h5]AMD XP 2200 |MUNCHKIN 512 DDR RAM |ECS[/b ][i] K7S5A MB[/i] |GF3 64 MEG @ 215/545|WIN XP PRO |MITSUBISHI DIAMOND PLUS 91 19"[/h5] Randy J Smith
June 23, 200322 yr Good point. Never thought of that....Good Day.Jay BirchCFI,CFII,MEIMobile, ALwww.clearedasfiled.com
June 23, 200322 yr " No. Pilot input is permitted. " Exactly, however most FS addons do not model yaw dampers well at all.Paul
June 23, 200322 yr Well Paul, it's not that people have not tried, just that MSFS developers make such things HARD to work around to get it right...[h5]Best Wishes,Randy J. Smith[/h5][h6]Are You Ready For The Next Great one? PMDG's 737NG is almost here![/h6][h3]" A little learning is a dangerous thing"[/h3] [h5]AMD XP 2200 |MUNCHKIN 512 DDR RAM |ECS[/b ][i] K7S5A MB[/i] |GF3 64 MEG @ 215/545|WIN XP PRO |MITSUBISHI DIAMOND PLUS 91 19"[/h5] Randy J Smith
June 24, 200322 yr Commercial Member Paul-In addition to all the other commentary in this thread- here is my view:MSFS does a HORRIBLE job of modeling dutch roll on swept wing jets. This is, in large part, the reason why yaw dampes are essentially not needed in MSFS.That being said- we have modeled the function and the systems of the yaw damper.If and when we find MS can model a good dutch roll- our yaw damper will be there to prevent it for you. ;-) Robert S. Randazzo PLEASE NOTE THAT PMDG HAS DEPARTED AVSIM You can find us at: http://forum.pmdg.com
June 24, 200322 yr Commercial Member Paul,Are you joking ??????? Own goal ?? I *did* pay for my rudder pedals ye know ! Jokes apart as Rob already pointed out yaw damper is essentially useless in MSFS since dutch roll never occurs. Our own AP, however, will take care of that in an unobtrusive manner when MS decides to implement this feature.Vangelis====================================== E. M. Vaos Precision Manuals Development Group====================================== ==================================== E M V Precision Manuals Development Group ====================================
June 24, 200322 yr I used to love FLY II when it was released but it's getting old sadly. Their manual had a lot on dutch rolls when flying the Hawker. Can a flight model not be made in FS9/FS8 to simulate dutch rolls?Paul
June 24, 200322 yr Commercial Member Hi!What about coordination during turns? Using the default MS code for auto coordination will take care of coordinated turns, but then the manual rudder is inhibited.How does this work on your a/c?Regards,Mark Mark Foti Author of aviaworx - https://www.aviaworx.com
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