Are there any other approaches available within the PMDG package eg VOR/DME or ADF etc.I tried to fly to FARO LPFR being very familiar with the place IRL. The Map with FS9 only shows the runway availability. IRL the are vor/dme approaches there. The FMC actually shows ILS freq 109.50 although you don't receive it on the PFD. Are the approaches a function of the standard database or an add on for use with the PMDG737NG?TIA

Adrian,Currently if you are not showing the approaches and you have downloaded the files, you will have to build it yourself. The NG model does has non-precision approach capabilities. Concerning ILS, on the NG, the FMC does not automatically program the NAV radios. You have to do it yourself. The frequency on the FMC is for reference purposes only. Hit the 'R' button on the view selector to tune in the freq.George

Thanks George.I did have both Nav radios tuned to 109.50 but there was no ils to be found. This is the frequency displayed by the init page of the FMC. As far as I am aware ther is NO ils at faro. I haven't been there since last year.:-)

As George said, approaches (non precision as well as ILS) are usually built by hand in the FMC, entering the waypoints and altitude/speed constraints.For ILS, the approach is usually flown using LNAV/VNAV until established on the localizer, then going to VOR/LOC mode and finally APP mode as you approach the glideslope intercept point.For non precision approaches, they're also usually flown with LNAV/VNAV to the first fix on the inbound course, and then flown in VOR/LOC with VS used to get you down for the stepdown fixes.Back courses are flown strictly with LNAV, monitoring the raw data on your Attitude Director Indicator. Be advised that the ADI does not currently automatically adjust to eliminate reverse sensing, but I _THINK_ that will be fixed in SU2.

Hi Adrian.Does the FS9 map show any data such as a VOR/DME frequency? If there is a VOR/DME in FS9 you should at least be able to select the VOR display in the ND and set a course to follow in (not sure if a VOR course would be shown in the PFD LOC scale?). From then on it

Timothy & Tord - greetings and thanks!I think it is just the way i described the problem that is at fault.I've been flying RL 727 for 13 years shortly to be going onto NG aircraft hehehehe. The puzzling question is that at FARO in portugal where there is no ILS approach, I found the FMC quoting a frequency of 109.50Mhz in the init/ref page.I was somewhat surprised by this as I personally love the two hour flight to Faro from LGW (My home base) and have usually ended up doing a visual approach with VOR/DME backup (in real life) only on two occasions in my 22 year professional flying career have i not been able to land due wx being out of limits.Is the ils freq display within the fmc (109.50) a function of one of the sid/stars .txt files that i have in the sidstar directory, or is the fmc getting the info from the main fs9 package? Even so, having selected the ils freqency on both radios (109.50) I did not get any ILS guidance during the approach, which is only to be expected. Has some kind soul put in ils data there within the simulator package or is this info left over within the fmc from a previous sector. I hope this explains the query more fully. :-)As a professional RL captain, I can say hand on heart that i thouroughly enjoy the sim scenarios and realism available with the 737NG Keep up the good work!!

Stange...I was convinced that Faro had finally installed that ILS ?Doesn really affect me,cos I try to fly the visual as much as possible... I enter the non precision approaches by simply entering the waypoint and then the radial and distance in the legs page.An example is the runway 28 final approach legs:VFA101/6Is 6 miles final,giving an inbound course of 281.Another important note is that of the final approach course being 5 degree's offset from the threshhold.Enjoy ;)JohnP 2.53 GHZ512 RAMWINXPGFORCE 4 128MB Ti4600http://homepage.eircom.net/~eamonnmca/images/logo_ba.JPGwww.bavirtual.co.uk Senior Captain Simflight.com Staff Reviewerhttp://vatsim.pilotmedia.fi/statusindicato...tor=OD1&a=a.jpg

>Timothy & Tord - greetings and thanks!>>I think it is just the way i described the problem that is at>fault.>>I've been flying RL 727 for 13 years shortly to be going onto>NG aircraft hehehehe. The puzzling question is that at FARO in>portugal where there is no ILS approach, I found the FMC>quoting a frequency of 109.50Mhz in the init/ref page.>>I was somewhat surprised by this as I personally love the two>hour flight to Faro from LGW (My home base) and have usually>ended up doing a visual approach with VOR/DME backup (in real>life) only on two occasions in my 22 year professional flying>career have i not been able to land due wx being out of>limits.>>Is the ils freq display within the fmc (109.50) a function of>one of the sid/stars .txt files that i have in the sidstar>directory, or is the fmc getting the info from the main fs9>package? >Even so, having selected the ils freqency on both radios>(109.50) I did not get any ILS guidance during the approach,>which is only to be expected. Has some kind soul put in ils>data there within the simulator package or is this info left>over within the fmc from a previous sector. I hope this>explains the query more fully. :-)I think the FMC will get it's ILS data from the NAVDATA file, and there MAY be an ILS defined in there that doesn't exist in reality, or existed a long time ago. The data source used for creating the flight simulator world, and the various NavData and SidStar files does not match reality very closely.Hope that explains why a frequency shows up that doesn't exist in reality.

John,Well what do you know.... heheheI learn something new everyday!Here is an extract from www.avbrief.com airport listing and look!!!RWY28 now has an ILS. Like I said it's been a year since I was there, I only hope they still let us do the odd visual like the good old days and use the ils when weather necessitates.ss= ds=cessna.avbrief.com rs=cessna.avbrief.com LPFR FARO FAO Today 30/09/03 Sunrise 06:28 Sunset 18:12 UTC UTC now 11:46 UTC offset time 11:46 Elevation 24 ft (0 mb) Location N37005200 W007575700 Magnetic Variation 4.1 West Transition Altitude 4000 ft Speed Limit 250 Kts below FL100 AIRAC Cycle 0212 Runways Rwy Brg Dim(m) Thr.Elev(ft) Disp.Thr.(m) LDA(m) TORA(m) ILS Ident ILS Freq. 10 104 2489 x 45 24 44 2445 2489 28 284 2489 x 45 18 44 2445 2489 IIF 109.50 Links Current TAFs/METARs Submit info Submit photos (by e-mail) Comms Frequencies Facility Frequency Approach 119.4 Ground 118.575 Tower 118.2 Airport NavAids [Caution! Bearings and distances are shown to the Aerodrome Reference Point (ARP) and not to the runway threshold] Facility Ident Frequency Morse Bearing Distance Description NDB FAR 332.00 ..-./.-/.-. 100 1.9 FARO ILS/DME IIF 109.50 ../../..-. FAR0 ILS/DME RW28 Nearby Navaids [Caution! Bearings and distances are shown to the Aerodrome Reference Point (ARP) and not to the runway threshold] Facility Ident Frequency Morse Bearing Distance Description VOR VFA 112.80 ...-/..-./.- 262 0.4 FARO Timothy, thanks for clearing up in my mind what was probably very straighforward for you! :-S

Faro has ILS. For have it http://www.airsim.net/modules.php?name=Dow...op=getit&lid=22This ILS was made for the scenery PPPhttp://www.airsim.net/modules.php?name=Dow...op=getit&lid=16For charts with a possible procedure you can go to Portuguese VACChttp://www.portugal-vacc.org/charts/LP-PC_LPFR-VeIAC.zipJos