December 8, 200322 yr Well, while we all PATIENTLY wait for the fabulous upcoming SU2 for our Boeing PMDG737's, have any of you been reading about Boeing's troubles in the real world? This link, entitled "How Boeing Blew It" provides a sad tale of a once great company, gone bad or going bad through unfortunate business decisions and practices: http://slate.msn.com/id/2092031/ I once asked my daughter, recently an aeronautical engineering intern for Boeing Satellite in Santa Monica, CA, whether or not she would ever consider working for Boeing satellite after graduation and she smiled and said, "No way daddy" and proceeded to tell me about Boeing's generally bad relationships with their employees just in that division alone. This was in Santa Monica. I live in Portland, Oregon and have had professional run-ins with Boeing aviation here in Portland through their medical department. My experiences have shown me that there has been trouble at Boeing for years now, so that these more recent events have a long history. The article above goes on to say that Airbus Industries now commands 60% of the marketplace and it is very possble that the maker of one of the most popular commercial aircraft, the 737 line, is likely to be entirely gone from commercial aviation in 10 years or so ! This is a rotten shame too. I've become a giant fan of the Airbus line of flightsim products, but I've a special place in my simming heart for Boeings craft, especially the 737. A sad day is likely coming, in fact likely has already come, at which time Boeing will no longer produce new and interesting aircraft that we can re-produce in our flightsimming products, so, I say..........thank you to PMDG for producing such a fine Flight simming product as our PMDG737's, for they are becoming a very real and very postive part of flight simming aviation history, though unfortunately, their unwise real world creator, counterpart and maker, Boeing Industries seems to be adding a rather negative chapter to the world of real aviation.Randy J, KPDX
December 8, 200322 yr Boeing.....gone out of business? Will NEVER happen...not if the US Government and Congress has anything to say about it.Don't fear....Boeing is here to stay.
December 8, 200322 yr After flying the excellent PMDG Boeings for the Fly! series, I hoped for an Airbus, but just for a while. I`m keeping an eye on the Boeing/Airbus story by reading "Air International", and I see which way it goes...So I also think choosing the 737 was the perfect decision. The plane has an interesting story, and its a kind of "national" bird here in Norway, and she requires more pilot input than an Airbus, and I like that :)
December 8, 200322 yr RandyI agree with you and it is really sad to see what is going on with Boeing right now.I guess it`s all about the money now as it seems to be in all the sectors in the American economy these days.Also it does`nt help when Airbus recieves huge subsidies for developement from involved goverments that can afford it as they really could care less about what`s going on in the world around them except how it affects their national pocketbook.Ah for the days of pioneers Of Boeing,McDonnel,Douglas truly the golden age of pioneering and risk taking.Ted
December 8, 200322 yr I don't think Boeing's situation is as bleak as it appears.Airbus overtaking Boeing in sales in a sluggish economy to me is a false positive. Airbuses lead can be erased completely in a good economyThe A380 market I still don't believe in, I believe Boeing has it right about the Jumbo market drying up in favor of smaller regional routes.And that might be the real reason for less 747 pax sales rather than what the article suggests, customers waiting for the A380.The A380 is a huge gamble IMO.Regards.Ernie.
December 9, 200322 yr This is a highly subjective article that reflects view of only one person - its author. If one reads lots of aviation related news and analysis the situation for Boeing is nowhere near as bleak as the author describes and Boeing may actually "win" with Airbus in long run.I suggest reading lots of different articles from different sources (Avation Week is a good one) before forming opinions about Boeing's fate. Trade magazines offer much better and honest perspective than popular media where author's own ego and jurnalistic bias is always the primary driving force.Michael J.http://www.reality-xp.com/community/nr/rsc/rxp-higher.jpg Michael J.
December 9, 200322 yr An excellent article in many ways - reflected in many aviation circles, yet criticised in others. So often Government subsidies are brought into the equation and depending on which side of the Atlantic you sit, the media will have a certain influencing bias towards clouding your judgement of the actual situation, as demonstrated by some comments already made in this thread.Competition is a wonderful thing and I think Boeings major fault was their inabilty to recognise it earlier and rise to the occassion. This is reflected in Airbus's dramatic growth (read - sales of a product that meets or exceeds customer requirements and expectations). This trend was predicted 15 years or more ago.Can they turn it around? Of course they can.Furthermore, it is in the interests of the whole aviation industry (including the carriers and the travelling public), that Boeing do so. From what I was told by a friend of mine who had a minor involvement in the recent Air New Zealand decision to go Airbus, both companies can be compared to chalk and cheese. Maybe Boeing needs to narrow that gap? ANZ121
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