I'm just wondering what PMDG's (and anyone else's for that matter) stance on "wing flex" is. I was just checking the homepage to see if any 747 updates had been added in recent days when I started thinking that seeing something that heavy touching down on the runway (or taking off) without the flex of the wing would look somewhat...odd.However, the various freeware models with this so-called "wing flex" often look even more odd (like really big birds flapping very jagged wings).So PMDG, what is your view on this issue. Do you think more advanced techniques will need to be invented before such "effects" can be rendered convincingly, or have you played with the idea of implementing this mechanic in your models (I don't own the 737 NG...yet, just the 1900D, but from what I've seen, it doesn't look like you have implemented this yet)Perhaps this issue hasn't really been as important with the smaller planes (certainly not the 1900!!), but given the Queen soars with her wings noticably curved, don't you think that a "straight-winged" version a la the default 744 would not quite live up to PMDG's standard of visual fidelity?I'm not suggesting you take one path or the other, for there are certainly drawbacks and advantages to both, I am merely curious as to how PMDG views the importance of this visual (not to mention it's FM implications given a more advanced simulator) effect both now and in future products.-Brass

Brass,the 737 wings don't flex noticably, therefore it wasn't implemented in our model. However, we are looking into it for the 747-400.

Thanks for the quick and informitave reply. That's what I thought regarding the 737, its not worth the trouble. I'm looking forward to the fruits of your labor ;)-Dan

i started a topic about this a little while ago - and apparently assing flexing wings would bring the poly count and drive frames right down :(Cheers ;)

Just my opinion, but I think they flex a fair bit.http://www.airliners.net/open.file/528947/L/http://www.airliners.net/open.file/339670/L/http://www.airliners.net/open.file/512135/L/

Look at this one;http://www.airliners.net/open.file/412465/L/Cheers,-Paul

Yes, its quite noticable there. However we're too far into production to add such things.Like Marc said, it'll be in our 744s :)

Yeap .. they do flex immensly .. been on many an Oman Air NG flight .. :Dbut we all know that can't be done now .. it's a bit toolate for that but hey .. we'll be glad to have it in the 747 .. !! .. whoopie

I know it's too late...but check this out!http://www.airliners.net/open.file/272578/M/Chris [email protected] (Previously KSFO)http://www.precisionmanuals.com/images/forum/ng_driver.jpg

That's nothing like her Majestyhttp://gallery.cybertarp.com/albums/userpi...otoID511028.jpgIf God had made whales fly, they would have looked like that.

John,How about popping rivets and metal fatigue.OK just kidding!I had a 747-400 with flexing wings some time ago, looked pretty good.Regards

HiJust look at this!Looks nice with that flexing wing!But i think is not a major thing to be added to the 800/900.http://www.airliners.net/open.file/545240/L/

Now here's what you call "flex" :)http://www.airliners.net/open.file/423367/LOn this topic, although I have no idea of how PMDG will implement flex for the B744, the method used by SGA on their DC-10 is really cool. It's independent of weight on the mains, as seems to be the way it's implemented in the more simplistic way by most designers so far. Hopefully this is something that's been released by MS in SDK's, and we might see more like this.Thanks,Bruce.

>i started a topic about this a little while ago - and>apparently assing flexing wings would bring the poly count and>drive frames right down :(>>Cheers ;)Actually, in the case of SGA's DC10, there was no increase or decrease of polygons, as I wrote the code to utilize the existing wing flex animation that was set up in GMax and tied to the main gear compression in the previous releases.As far as performance hit..... We have NOT received any reports from anyone in our forums saying that the FPS went down.In fact, if a modeller recompiled his model in GMax and reassigned his wing flexing from gear compression to userdefined0, I can add the wing flex code into the mdl file in about 5 minutes with the program I have written.But, then again, according to the previous thread on this topic, I guess I will need to bow to the superior wisdom of the PMDG's developers and realize that I have had to sacrifice something to get the wing flexing to work (which I am going through everything and have yet to find that sacrifice), and realize that here has been a major hit on FPS (also something I am trying to figure out between the models of the before and after).Oh well, what do I know..... Me just dumb developer......FraserSGA

I don't think it's that important to incorporate it into the 800/900 so I agree with PMDG not needing to make that change, I think the 777 and 747-400 are much more noticeable. Besides, from what I've seen with most planes that have used that feature you get those NASTY gmax rendered strobe lights which truly look horrid. The fs2004 lighting is much better so that's one unfortuante drawback.jason