April 25, 200422 yr HiI have been loading my 737-800 with the Load Editor program.Unfortunately, when loading the aircraft to a ZFW higher than 130'000 lbs, causes the FMC to fail to calculate VREF. Secondly A-Floor marker will be active up to speeds of 250 knots.Any idea? 133'000 lbs is a very common ZFW loadoutcheersMartin X-Plane 11.3x / DCS 2.5.4 / P3Dv4.5 / Aerofly FS 2 Win10-x64 | ASUS Z270E | Intel i7-7700K @4.5GHz | Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB DDR4 | 6TB SSD Samsung 850 Pro | ASUS GTX 1080 ROG STRIX 8GB DDR5X | TM Hotas Warthog | Saitek Combat Pedals | Oculus Rift CV1
April 25, 200422 yr Martin,Check under PMDG menu Styles that the weight setting is not set to kgs.anthonyAnthony MertonPrecision Manuals Developmenthttp://www.precisionmanuals.com
April 25, 200422 yr Author It's set correctThe aircraft operates properly under 130'000 lbs.Any other idea?CheersMartin X-Plane 11.3x / DCS 2.5.4 / P3Dv4.5 / Aerofly FS 2 Win10-x64 | ASUS Z270E | Intel i7-7700K @4.5GHz | Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB DDR4 | 6TB SSD Samsung 850 Pro | ASUS GTX 1080 ROG STRIX 8GB DDR5X | TM Hotas Warthog | Saitek Combat Pedals | Oculus Rift CV1
April 25, 200422 yr hmmmm... ??? no....And you are talking about VREF, not the takeoff speeds ? Cold you post a pic of your APP CDU page (where VREF is shown)anthonyAnthony MertonPrecision Manuals Developmenthttp://www.precisionmanuals.com
April 25, 200422 yr Author well i am talking about both takeoff speeds and VREFVREF with flaps 30 / 252Takeoff = unable to calculate. hitting the lSK does not change a thing.I will see if i get a screenshotcheers X-Plane 11.3x / DCS 2.5.4 / P3Dv4.5 / Aerofly FS 2 Win10-x64 | ASUS Z270E | Intel i7-7700K @4.5GHz | Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB DDR4 | 6TB SSD Samsung 850 Pro | ASUS GTX 1080 ROG STRIX 8GB DDR5X | TM Hotas Warthog | Saitek Combat Pedals | Oculus Rift CV1
April 25, 200422 yr Martin,I just tried the -800 with a ZFW of 133 thousand something lbs loaded from the Load Manager. With fuel I ended up with a GW of 146,100 lbs. The V-speeds I got from the FMC was a tad too low compared to the table for the 800 in the PMDG AOM.FMC: 129 139 148AOM: 143 145 154 (for 147,000 lbs)But I certainly managed to get my V-speeds. The FMC is also giving me a pretty accurate Vref speed of 147 KIAS for a flaps 30 landing.No offence but I have to ask, are you sure you have set lbs in both FS and the PMDG menu? (I know it's easy to forget to change in both instances)Hope it helps, Mats JohanssonPMDG Flight Test Dept | Asus Z270-A | Intel i5-7600K @ 4.8 GHz OC/H2O | nVidia Geforce GTX 1070 8GB OC/O2|
April 26, 200422 yr Author i did.And even the Load Editor ZFW indicator didn't turn red at all. SO i must assume that the ZFW was correct.I entered the value as known from the 737-700 into the FMC.ZFW: 133CI: 80Does cost index have influence?on the takeoff ref page i cannot enter sel OAT. it does no accept the value. It says "invalid entry". If i hit the LSK besides V1/VR/V2 nothing happens if using ZFW over 130'000 lbs. it remains "---"anyway i entered the values manually139 / 139 / 146 (it was my guess. don't blame on me if they were wrong) I took off. However the A-Floor begun to blink. It wouldn't go off until 270 knots. Thats pretty weird.While landing in noticed the most excessive V-Ref of 252 knots with Flaps 30!!??Next i did the same on my -900. Same result. Next i did reduce loadout till i got under 130'000 lbs. It works. no change at all.I might not be an aviation expert, but the behaving is different from the 737-700, which i am very used to.Nevermind. I will be able to live with it. I have simply rediced baggage and i am fine ;)cheersMartin X-Plane 11.3x / DCS 2.5.4 / P3Dv4.5 / Aerofly FS 2 Win10-x64 | ASUS Z270E | Intel i7-7700K @4.5GHz | Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB DDR4 | 6TB SSD Samsung 850 Pro | ASUS GTX 1080 ROG STRIX 8GB DDR5X | TM Hotas Warthog | Saitek Combat Pedals | Oculus Rift CV1
April 26, 200422 yr I used a ZFW of 134,500 lbs, and everything worked fine for me. Speeds were calculated fine. I use a cost index of 50 (not sure if this does anything, still reading through the manual). ------------------------- Craig from KBUF
April 26, 200422 yr Looks like something is screwed up in your setup. Could be a wrong load in the aircraft.cfg file, lbs/kg dilemma, etc. I would suggest a reinstall of the packages and see if that cures the problem.the range for SEL TEMP is 16-70 Mats JohanssonPMDG Flight Test Dept | Asus Z270-A | Intel i5-7600K @ 4.8 GHz OC/H2O | nVidia Geforce GTX 1070 8GB OC/O2|
April 26, 200422 yr Author Ok, it works nowI reinstalled to make sure that i haven't had left anything from before.I tried hard, no way to reproduce at this time ;)Thanks for helpMartin X-Plane 11.3x / DCS 2.5.4 / P3Dv4.5 / Aerofly FS 2 Win10-x64 | ASUS Z270E | Intel i7-7700K @4.5GHz | Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB DDR4 | 6TB SSD Samsung 850 Pro | ASUS GTX 1080 ROG STRIX 8GB DDR5X | TM Hotas Warthog | Saitek Combat Pedals | Oculus Rift CV1
April 26, 200422 yr Using a higher cost index like say 80% will result in a higher cruise speed and vice versa. Not sure, but I saw that a C/I of 23% was used on the 737 video that came with the G/A boxed 737. The PIC 767 manual recommends 80%. I have done extensive fuel consumption tests on all the major add-ons and found that using lower C/I figures results in a substantial fuel saving.
April 26, 200422 yr Hi,Cost Indexes are different for every aircraft type and every operator. It is a formula where you try to optimize the time dependant costs with the speed dependant costs.At Scandinavian Airlines the normal CI for their NGs is 50. I know that Braathens are running with a slightly lower CI. I think 36 or so. Indicating that their crews are a little less paid than SAS crews. Thus can be in the air longer and save on some fuel money. ;-)Basically...Cheers, Mats JohanssonPMDG Flight Test Dept | Asus Z270-A | Intel i5-7600K @ 4.8 GHz OC/H2O | nVidia Geforce GTX 1070 8GB OC/O2|
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