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So, "100% 2024 ready" is basically no payware aircraft that I know of. Many aircraft work just fine in 2024, but none of them support the walk around feature where you can remove the chocks, etc (you can walk around just fine, just not click anything). Outside of that, many basically work fine and can be flown in 2024. Now that the marketplace, most addons are still not showing as 2024, even though they work ok. Best thing to do is a little digging based on what you own. Many have support Discords and you can tell the companies that are on top of 2024 and those that aren't pretty easily. For GA aircraft, I've been flying the COWS DA 40 and 42 a ton. Flightsimware 414 works great, I believe their other aircraft do as well but don't own them all. FSReborn has some good 2024 compatible planes as well. GA stuff usually goes over fairly easily. I don't use the airliners at all, I know there's lots of SDK and issues for them to work through. Scenery is all over the place. You just have to check out each vendor's support site/Discord.

It is confusing, but what I *think* is happening is that since everything is streaming, there's really nothing to do to update. I got one for a plane and I was all over looking for it, and of course once you click on it, the message disappears. There's nothing to do (until we can actually download these things).

I was able to get the airport section working once, but then it went back to the endless spinning. No way I'm buying anything until things settle down. I bought something once when the store went down, and I had to go through their support to get my account back (it was a quick ticket, but it took days to turn around).

I found this thread at he Orbx site that shows what is compabitle and what not. It has been recently updated, so it looks like we just need to wait (or do a workaround). https://forum.orbxdirect.com/topic/222983-msfs2024-compatible-products-published-on-orbx-direct-and-central/

I think they just need to communicate better. Many of my addons are there, but of course still some say not compatible. Do they really not work, or are they just not certified as working yet? I'm not even talking about the utilities that might have more issues, but just sceneries. I don't want to put anything into 2024 that might cause issues. I've been very careful what I load into 2024 and I don't seem to run into the issues that others seem to always run into. However, are they just slow to test these things, or is there some issue? Hopefully we get some clarity now that SU1 is out. This seems to be a common problem, and not just Orbx. My MS Store stuff was slowly appearing, but I haven't seen anything in weeks. There's still lots of products I'm missing, and the frustrating thing is it isn't easy to see what all is missing without installing 2020 (which I really want to avoid).

I always bind something to save custom camera #, then load custom camera #. I always use the same number as my default cockpit view (set where I want it).

GenX is anyone born 1965-1980 or so (it isn't like there's any kind of authority that decides these things, but that's the general rule).

Here's what I've done. I would not recommend a mass copy of the community folder over. If you do that, you at least want to go in smaller chunks, and even then you'll be doing a lot of trial and error. You want a separate folder and an addon linker for sure. I never used an addon linker in 2020, but I do now. Stores like the marketplace and Orbx will only let you install addons that are compatible. So, if something shows up in the marketplace, it should be safe to install (there's a few exceptions still). Same with Orbx, I don't have 2020 installed, and it won't let me install addons that are not 2024 compatible into 2024. In theory I could install 2020 and copy it over, but I'm not doing that until I'm sure. For paywaye stuff, I'd recommend checking out the vendor's site and/or where you bought it to see it it is compatible. You can check various marketplaces to see if it says "2024". For me, if something doesn't say compatible, I hold off. For freeware, honestly I dumped it all and am starting over. I'm only grabbing stuff that has been updated. fs dot to has a nice filter. If you've got some favorite freeware, you can load it separately and test it. I don't know if my way is "right", but I seem to have a lot fewer problems than most. In the early days, everything from the 2020 marketplace automatically loaded into 2024, and my sim didn't work until they stopped that. We were told that 2020 addons should be compatible with 2024. We expected airports to copy over at least, but the reality is for whatever reason that isn't the case. I've gone with caution and patience.

"You are a slow learner, Winston." "How can I help it? How can I help but see what is in front of my eyes? Two and two are four." "Sometimes, Winston. Sometimes they are five. Sometimes they are three. Sometimes they are all of them at once. You must try harder. It is not easy to become sane.” ― George Orwell, 1984

I knew it would take time to get things converted over, but I didn't expect quite this long. Is there a payware aircraft out that fully supports all of 2024's features? I know most work fine, but I mean actually supporting the click spots and such? Not a dealbreaker by any means, but I'm surprised there have been so few updates. Freeware and payware scenery has been slow as well. Are developers waiting for the marketplace/SU1? Hurry up and take my money!

My niece is 10 now and still has to ride in a car seat. I remember back in the day, sitting next to my Mom on a bucket seat. No seat belt. When Mom had to hit the brakes fast, her arm went out to hold me in the seat. I always laugh when I see school buses going house to house. The next kid who lives next door is standing there, not even a bus length away, but has to wait for the bus to come to their "stop". The doors close, the bus creeps up 5 feet and picks them up. I'm sure things are much safer today, but honestly, I don't remember kids dying back in the day in large numbers.

I think this is one of those things certain people notice more than others. The difference between 20 fps and 60 is massive to me. As you start to get higher, that gap shrinks greatly. Now, for very high speed first person shooters like COD, you really want 120+. Top players use 240hz monitors and 240fps. Does flight sim need triple digit FPS? Not really. For me though, anything below 60 starts to feel a little clunky. I mean, is 45 flyable? Of course. Still, something dropping me from 60+ to 45 is causing stutters. For me, smooth flight adds to the immersion, just like the scenery. FSX made me quit the hobby for years because no amount of hardware could ever get rid of the awful stuttering, even with GA planes. I mean, we flew with 20 in FSX because it wouldn't give us anymore. I couldn't even guess how many FSX stuttering threads there were here back in the day. We don't have force feedback or full motion rigs (well most of us), so our eyes give us the "feel" of the plane. Visual stutters "feel" bad, even if there's no feel.

This isn't uncommon in racing. There's kids at 4-5 racing go carts. There's 17-18 year olds running in Formula 1, so they start much younger in the earlier series.

I'll echo the "only if it is 2024 compatible" statement. I don't load any addon that isn't showing as compatible and/or has been mentioned by the vendor. For example, if the Orbx store isn't showing it for 2024, I'm waiting. What we were told before launch was that "most" addons from 2020 should port over to 2024, but in reality that's not the case. I'm one of those people who have not had major issues with 2024, not sure it is because I am so careful with my addons or not, but that's my guess. I know early on when everything from the MS marketplace was loading in the sim (before they fixed it), my 2024 was a mess. Once they stopped doing that, my problems went away. I uninstalled 2020, so I can't comment on how to run both, but I'd recommend keeping 2024 as "vanilla" as possible until things settle down.

Personally, I uninstalled that whole Nvidia experience thing and just install the driver. I imagine it is useful for a casual PC gamer who maybe doesn't want to mess with things, but I found it annoying. I had it when FS 2020 came out and it suddenly started changing my settings.