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This patch seems to have fixed a lot of weird things I was seeing. Other than MSFS deciding that half my mappings got deleted, once I set everything up again, it is doing what I expect.

For me, Taog is to helicopters what A2A or Black Square is to GA. They are one of the few developers I buy from with no hesitation. I'm not a real world pilot, but real world helicopter pilots praise their flight dynamics as one of the best. One of the few native 2024 helicopters as well, which is a big plus in my book. There's really not a lot of 2024 native helis right now, mostly just 2020 ports. As Ryan said, you will need to spend time in the manual just getting up to speed. That said, you need to be a big fan of helicopters and want to dig into it. It also helps if you plan to use it for career mode missions, Miltech Mission Hub and/or Emergency Dispatcher Pro (the latter is the one I'm starting with lately). Flying helicopter missions is a whole lot of fun and of course this fits a lot of those real world roles. I hate to tell people what their money is worth to them, but I'll tell you it was well worth my $50 US. Again though, I only fly helicopters and GA, and never touch the airliners.

You might want to wait for the big patch, which is supposed to be out as soon as they can get it on the marketplace. They are hoping Monday but who knows. Only downside of releasing on the marketplace only.

Yeah you definitely don't want to start with a complex helicopter. Start with something simple that will help you learn the basics. That would be like instead of learning to walk, to enter a track and field competition. The #1 thing I recommend to people wanting to learn helicopters is check out Youtube. There's lots of great MSFS specific stuff but also a ton of real world heli lessons. I made the mistake of jumping right in and just assuming that my airplane knowledge and controls would carry over. I didn't understand a single thing about how a helicopter works.

That's what is kind of funny, I really don't know. I remember seeing stuff like this a lot, but I've yet to see fireworks in the sim without a mod. My guess is AI isn't "wrong" but isn't including the info about the mod needed.

I swear this is some sort of urban myth. I've never seen fireworks in 2024 without an addon. There's a We Love VFR addon that says it is compatible with 2020 but people in the comments say it works in 2024. I'm guessing people download the addon and forget that it isn't stock. I don't believe this has ever been in the sim without an addon. Of course if you use one of our wonderful AI search tools, it will tell you that it works. I don't think it ever has without an addon.

According to their discord, patch might be out Monday (MS doesn't deploy stuff over the weekend) and it will be substantial.

Some progress! I unmapped and remapped the trim release exactly as before and... it just works now. I swear I had it set exactly as in the manual. I think what happened is that my stick moved a bit, and it was button 3 + something else (doh!). I re-did it and it snaps exactly as expected. Hard to get used to, but working! I had input viewer installed but never thought to check. 🫣 One thing I am noticing is that the beep trim seems to do nothing. Not sure if the automation turns that off completely or what, but it doesn't do anything. This was part of my problem, I was trimming a bit to fine tune it and it is doing nothing. I even click the button on the actual in game joystick for beep trim and nothing, so it isn't a mapping in this case. I think I can just use the other trim now that it works. My thinking would be to make small adjustments to the trim with the beep trim. I might be doing something wrong though. Anyway thanks again for all the help. I try to find stuff on their official Discord but those are hard to search.

No assists on for sure, but I'll double check just in case. I can handle the M500C after a lot of practice, so it works but things can be super sensitive. It kind of amazes me how little travel joysticks have. I've been looking for a good mid level joystick that will cover helis and regular flying. Of course cost is part of it, but desk space too. I need something that I can move out of the way in a moment's notice since the home cockpit is also work some of the time. I never seem to find anything mid level that would work for everything (I don't mind flying GA planes with a right hand flight stick even though that's not quite how it really works lol). The TM Airbus stick is actually pretty decent bang for the buck

I do have ASE on and the trim mapped according to the instructions (the press and release, one repeats one doesn't). I actually watched the videos before even buying to be sure. I built out a completely new dedicated control scheme for the specific aircraft commands (the ones that start "as65"). It is like it "almost" works, I can release most of the pressure. It comes close to centering as expected, but just needs that extra bit. I might even need a little more null zone or something, as it thinks it is centered but it is not. I have a feeling the patch will help, that sounds like what I'm seeing. There's only so much I can do with a $100 TM Airbus stick too.

Yes thanks! That adjustment to the trim might be what I need. It feels like it kind of works but still needs more. If I hold the stick a bit down and right it seems to fly just fine. This is the HH65 for now. I think I have fly through on for now, maybe I'll turn that off.

I finally bought this and just starting to learn them. Very impressive! I'm glad I took the time to watch some videos before just jumping in. I think I have the controls set up fairly well. One thing I'm struggling with is getting the helicopter trimmed out. I hold the trim release down while getting the helicopter flying level, then let it go. I'm trying to just fly level (no autopilot) and it just won't. I use the beep trim to get the nose down and it just won't. If I let go of the stick, the nose jumps and it pulls hard left. If I keep pressure on the stick, it can fly straight, but if I so much as let go pressure, it is gone. I use the custom beep trim but it just doesn't seem to help. I try and reduce collective and the nose drops a bit but never settles. I'm sure I have everything set up, and I have the centering joystick clicked in options. (I have the TM Airbus stick). I'm sure there's something I'm not fully understanding. My thinking is (and based on what videos say), hold down the trim button as I take off and climb. Get the heli in a stable place, release the button and let the helicopter settle. It never really does though. It isn't like I'm totally out of control, but I'm always +/- 300 feet and always struggling to hold. I feel like I'm missing something. Not really sure where the trim release comes in vs the beep trim (I'm used to trimming a helicopter with the up/down/left/right trim). I feel like it is human error and I'm fighting some sort of automation, but just not sure. Maybe I need more gentle collective movements to get it level? I don't have the collective beep mapped yet (wrestling with 2024 keybinds is not fun).

It has already been said but worth repeating - Asobo isn't owned by MS, and MSFS seems to do very well. Layoffs suck, but none of this likely has anything to do with MSFS. Unfortunately video games are going through some tough times. The problem is, a studio puts out a single player game, it gets reviewed at at 8/10 or so, but it just doesn't sell.

I'd be shocked if anything comes out in 2028 or anything close to that. Hardware prices are exploding and seem to be going nowhere but up. Nobody is going to be able to upgrade to need a new sim anytime soon. Next gen consoles are very likely going to be delayed at least a couple of years. It just wouldn't make sense commercially. It took years for 2024 to replace 2020, and that's before hardware prices went crazy. I'm afraid to see what a new PC in 2028 would cost. I can run 2024 nearly maxed out, and there's zero reason to move off that anytime soon. Unless something drastically changes with the hardware market, I just don't see it. I'm guessing next gen consoles get delayed for many years too. Even if they do push something? So what? 2020 is still supported and no end of life date announced. Even if there's a 2028, it won't impact me one bit.

Apparently an A340 ditched in the water just west of Tampa, and it is my job to fly a rescue. Flew out of St Pete (Verticalsim's scenery works great) and started a search. Hard to miss an A340 in good weather. I hoist up 4 injured passengers and fly them to a nearby hospital (presumably boats pick up the rest). Off in the MH60 I go. I'm still in demo mode. Not a review, but just observations: -I'm guessing much of this is AI generated. Not saying that's good or bad, just take that how you will -It doesn't use any of the actual hoist or features of the Miltech MH60, you just click a button on the interface to do things like lower the hoist. -It shows you the vital signs of the patents as you fly them back, reminding you that time is important -It gives good feedback on your flying. It seems patients that are already injured don't appreciate being bounced around the cabin more because I slipped into VRS. -The debrief is rather detailed, and gets saved as an html file you can review later. Lots of things from how efficiently did you fly, to erratic moves, etc. -Apparently I have to actually apply care to people? Didn't see how to do that, but I probably should RTFM at some point. -Interface requires you to alt-tab in and out, but the tablet shows the map for you (so if the tablet is mounted, you get an easy view) Overall - I had fun. I have no idea how realistic this is. Kind of a steep price, but I might end up buying when my trial is over. No bugs that I noticed so far, assume everything was "user error" on my part.