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The Navy announced they have awarded Boeing the Multi-mission Maritime Aircraft contract using 737's to replace P-3 Orions. Any of you repainters out there want to do a Navy 737-800 NG?Here's the link to the Boeing MMA site:http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/military/mma/flash.htmlPeter HemmKTOA"The air takes me into its realm" - Beryl Markhamhttp://www.precisionmanuals.com/images/forum/800driver.jpghttp://jdtllc.com/images/RCsupporter.jpg

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WOW! a modified model and paint in that scheme would be a real killer!Litterally! BestsKevin

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The BBJ/Military package begins getting REAL attractive :9 Luca

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i would really love to see the MMA in the BBJ/Military variants package being primarily a C-40A driver myself & it works great using the PMDG, after quite a bit of modification!i am beginning work on a MMA soon, i'll post some shots as i get into it...there's more info here:http://www.news.navy.mil/search/display.asp?story_id=13759

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>i would really love to see the MMA in the BBJ/Military>variants package being primarily a C-40A driver myself & it>works great using the PMDG, after quite a bit of>modification!>>i am beginning work on a MMA soon, i'll post some shots as i>get into it...>>there's more info here:>>http://www.news.navy.mil/search/display.asp?story_id=13759Are the P3's the MMA is replacing carrier-compatible, or do they have to operate from shore?

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TimP3`s are four engine turboprops and are shore based.S3 Vikings are carrier based in the asw/maritime role.I`ll miss the Orions alot but I guess they`ve done their duty over the last fourty something years.Samuel

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Hi TimThe P3 Orion is a modified version of the old Lockheed Super Electra four engine turboprop airliner. It is used by the US Navy primarily for anti-submarine-warfare and maritime surveillance patrol missions. Although entirely shore based, the P3 has been used to provide escort assistance to carrier battle groups.It was a Navy P3 that was forced down in China in April 2001 when struck by a PRC jet fighter.Best regards,Sandy

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>It was a Navy P3 that was forced down in China in April 2001>when struck by a PRC jet fighter.>>Best regards,>SandyTechnically it was an EP-3 ;)I know it's terrible but I laughed when I heard the name of the Chinese pilot who hit it - Wong Wei - he certainly flew the Wong Wei :D

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The P-3 is a ground up design that "resembles" the look of the L-188 not at all the same, nor a "modified" version.The S-3 is pretty much nothing more than a flying gas station now.The MMA is based on the BBJ2, so you'll be missing the extra fuel with a B738.P-3's rarely do ASW anymore, A 6 month deployment to Diego Garcia(with Detachments in Bahrain/Qatar/Kuwait/Oman) might if lucky fly 1 or 2 real world ASW flight. Primary mission there is(in no particluar order) Battle Group Escort, Maritime Intercept, Over the horizon targeting(not sure on stats for OIF/OEF but during Desert Storm 55 out of 108 Iraqi vessels destroyed were targeted by P-3's), Battle Damage Assestment, SAR, SEAL/Special Forces insersion, Reconisance(EP-3E), and some others that can't think of off the top of my head.If not mistaken the new MMA will be called the P-8 or P-9.

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SuperBeeYep not much meat on the table for the asw boys anymore so I guess it makes sense to expand the roles of these platforms.Come to think of it I wonder if the MMA will be able to tank?That would come in real handy.Ah for the good old days in the GIUK Gap when the fishin was good.;)Samuel

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the MMA will have a fuel receptical above the cockpit (like the other boeing's in military use) for use with the boom refuelling system. it won't be a tanker itself though.

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Hi LaurieThanks,I see you gotten away from the 777/F18.Well if you`re haulin trash the PMDG/C-40 is the way to do it.Are you still flying for BAV?Samuel

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I've got a great Powerpoint presentation on the MMA. It's a 1.5 MB zipped file (too big for a forum attachment). If anyone is interested in seeing it, email me and I'll attach it./R,Hawk

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>the MMA will have a fuel receptical above the cockpit (like>the other boeing's in military use) for use with the boom>refuelling system. it won't be a tanker itself though.Nope. No In-Air Refueling Spec'd on MMA, quite possible it was thought of before the BBJ2 was the airframe to be base from. Then its not really a BBJ2 either, MMA will be 3 feet shorter...There really isn't a need for it so why waste the money...

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i have started work on the MMA paint (800ERX).first shot below. it has yet to have any markings or detail applied, and of course, this is just based on computer generated images from Boeing, so probably won't be accurate.http://www.ai-uk.net/VUSN/Images/MMA-01.jpg

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looks beautiful, can't wait to fly around wearing that new outfit!

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couple more for you all...http://www.ai-uk.net/VUSN/images/MMA-02.jpghttp://www.ai-uk.net/VUSN/images/MMA-03.jpgwhat do you think of the metallic like fuselage? i think its too metallic & needs to be more grey (like the fin & engines)...i also need to a few more details.i have done the paint scheme as that of VP-40 "Fighting Marlins" stationed at NAS Whidbey Island, WA (KNUW). They operate some of the oldest P-3C so would be some of the first to get MMA's.i have also made some flight model modifications - CFM-56B27 engines (still can't get the FMC to recognise this! anyone got any ideas?), increased fuel tank capacity & increased max gross weight.The ZFW is also fixed (at 105096lbs, a rough estimate until i work out precise equipment loads & obviously its all still in development).

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Any word on this package?Thanks

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i'm doing a few last things to the repaint, obviously since i have so little to go on its a trial & error method, so i make some changes & see if they look good/plausable & must do this for the whole repaint...

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i have now posted v1 of the repaint on the AVSIM file library, it should be up today or tomorrow. it includes some edits of the engine thrust, fuel tank capacity & weights & loads sections of the aircraft.cfg & full instructions on how to acomplish the changes.what i am still working on:- slight changes in the textures to make a slightmore accurate representation.- getting the FMC to recognise the increase in thrust to 27300lbs.- working out how to get the FMC to work for a typical high-low-high patrol flight.the VNAV goes haywire when you input a cruise alt of FL350 then descend to 1600ft for patrol & then go back up to FL350 for return, you lose all time & fuel estimates, i'm going to try a few things (like setting 1600ft for cruise alt in) & will report back on this...enjoy!

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Laurie, So far, so good! It's installed and I'm flying a non mission flight from Pensacola to Key West. It looks great and flies even better! Great job!ChuckAthlon XP 2800+ASUS A7N8X DeluxeAntec TruePower 480 PS1.0 gig DDR PC2700ATI Radeon 9800Pro 128 running Omega Driver 25.04SB Audigy 2WD 60 gig HDDWD 40 gig HDDCH Products USB YokeCH Products USB PedalsWindows XP Prohttp://www.precisionmanuals.com/images/forum/ng_driver.jpg

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