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I just finished a marathon tour of all 50 U.S. state capitals (in alphabetical order by state no less). The original intention being to "collect" all 50 state capital buildings. To my great surprise, they're not all there! Basically states fall into one of 3 categories:Group 1. States with custom models of their real capital buildings. These are Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Montana, New Mexico, Oregon, and Utah. Here's an example from Boston.http://home.kc.rr.com/techazoid/massachusetts.JPGGroup 2. States that use one of three "generic" capital buildings. There's a 2 wing building in Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, California, Florida, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Kansas, Maine, Michigan, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Washington, West Virginia, and Wisconson. This one is from Boise.http://home.kc.rr.com/techazoid/idaho.JPGA 4 wing version is used in Georgia, Iowa, Mississippi, and New Jersey. This is Des Moines.http://home.kc.rr.com/techazoid/iowa.JPGA smaller 2 wing is used by New Hampshire and Nevada. Nevada deserves special mention. This screenshot is with all sliders maxed and shows every building in Carson City! There's the capital itself and a generic office building where I assume they keep the interns. :) I guess Nevada blew its entire scenery budget on (or possibly in?) Las Vegas. :-lolhttp://home.kc.rr.com/techazoid/nevada.jpg3. States with no capital building at all. These are Connecticut, Delaware, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Missouri, Nebraska, New York, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Vermont, Virginia, and Wyoming.The question then, is why do some states get custom models While others are left out completely. What did group 3 do to affend the scenery gods at MS? My first thought was that these were the states still sueing Microsoft, but that turned out to be wrong. :-halo Any theories out there (crackpot or otherwise) as to why the scenery gods would smile upon Arizona, but smite Missouri?

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Ohio's is in there, it's the "thing" that looks like a bagel on top of a shoe box in downtown Columbus. Yes, it's as ugly as MSN shows it.

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The one in Olympia for Washington State is actually pretty accurate.

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Hang on..... You started in Alabama, flew up to Alaska, then down to Arizona, then over to Arkansas, then clear across to California, back to Colorado, WAY back to Connecticut, down to Delaware, down the coast to Florida and Georgia, then ALLLLLLLL the way to Hawaii... you get the idea.HOW much time did it take to do this????? Are you still employed? Do your friends and relatives still remember your name? :)--Tony

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Actually, the building in Carson City you refer to as "an office building" is the largest building in the city, the Ormsby House Hotel and Casino (currently not open -- it's undergoing renovation and repair under new owners) -- can't remember offhand but it's over ten stories tall.It's not the "only" tall building -- there are several state buildings downtown (like the Blasdal building) that are over four stories, but it's the only one you can probably see from the air reasonably.Since most people (including myself) who live in Carson work for the state there are indeed lots of state buildings, but nothing really distinctive. I think MS did a more than fair job modeling our city.

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O.K. I figured I pobably just missed some. I'll go have a look see and update my list.

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Great, that's the kind of info I find interesting. I just found it interesting that even a small city like Juneau has dozens of generic buildings with autogen on while Carson City had just the two buildings. How sccurate is the capital? In FS its the exact same model as the one in Concord, New Hampshire.

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Actually you did miss Cheyenne, Wyoming. It is fairly accurate in style, however, the color is too light.

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Well, it seems like I have only lived in states where there is no capital at all, maybe its my fault, I use a Mac sometimes. :-lol-------------Michael"The one fellow who is really broke in the air is the one who is out of both altitude and airspeed" (Wolfgang Langewieche, Stick and Rudder)

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Yeah, that's it! It's actually taken months (like 6 or 7). Unfortunately, I had to rebuild my system in early April and I forgot to save my logbook, so I don't know exactly how many hours. But its been 82.1 (out of a total of 144 logged) since April 7. The longest was Georgia - Hawaii at 10+ hours in a 747.Luckily my boss is also a flightsim freak,:D and after 25 years of marriage, my wife long ago gave up on the idea that I'd grow out of it. :-hah

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I made the same trip, but I didn't do it in alphabetic order. I started at my home airport in Teterboro, NJ (KTEB) and then planned a route where almost all of the flights were short. In fact, I only included the lower 48. I hate long flights and for that reason I chose to exclude Alaska and Hawaii. I also wanted to fly non-stop from capital to capital and do the entire trip with the same plane. I used the King Air. I had a lot of fun just planning and flying each leg.

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>Great, that's the kind of info I find interesting. I just >found it interesting that even a small city like Juneau has >dozens of generic buildings with autogen on while Carson >City had just the two buildings. How sccurate is the >capital? In FS its the exact same model as the one in >Concord, New Hampshire. With the default landclass Carson is indeed sparse in the extreme. I have the Landclass stuff put out by, oh, I don't know offhand, but it's the group that makes all the current landclass stuff for sale. Rend? Anyway, with that landclass there are *lots* of buildings in Carson and most of them are pretty close to what should be there.As for accuracy -- well, most Capitol buildings *do* look fairly generic. LOL. The one in Carson has a silver dome (we *are* the Silver State, after all) but other than that looks pretty close to the real building. It doesn't offend me much even though I fly out of Carson all the time because when I do get a glimpse of the building (and remember, I have a lot more buildings in Carson with that landclass stuff) I really can't see whether it's gold or silver.I think you accomplished an extremely interesting feat. As for me, I'm just glad MS included us (Carson City is the answer to one of the questions from the original Trivial Pursuit game, namely "What is the capital of Nevada?" It always used to amuse me we were so obscure.)

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For Iowa, I would say overall the city is modeled as accurately as I could expect it to be....for Iowa. :) The capital building is correct as far as I know. The upper sections and dome are correct, but I dont drive downtown enough to know if it has the four wings. I love flying Iowa because its easy on frames. :)Craig

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WOW, so it's really true; Iowa and Ohio really are the same state. And I thought some people were just mispronouncing one or the other name. R-

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It's funny how everyone made plans to tour the entire U.S. I myself made a flight plan last week that includes the capitals and major cities of all 50 states (113 in total!). The flight path is rather orderly, taking me from Juneau Alaska to Miami Florida and measures a total distance of 21574 nm. Now I just need to find the time to start such an ambitious journey, lol.-Derek

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Actualy the vemont one is there.......It's just 4 miles from where it's supposed to be!!!! I appears just to your left as you Depart from EF Knapp State (KMPV)runway 35 at about 4 miles from the threshhold (it's suppose to be on your right at about 3 miles out)I've used FS Scenery enhancer to place a state house in the right place howeverthe first pic shows the default vermont Statehouse location.the second shows the real dealBrian

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Florida:Big differrences, As far as Miami, the Airport including all the major expressways are modelled. Miami is "very detailed", the stadiums, and some of the major buildings are where and how they supposed to be, It's worth to take a look in a very low VFR over the coast and Miami Beach. When it comes to west palm beach..... that looks like the Bermuda triangle; suddenly over that city your FPS drop form average 18 in my system to 0.2 (yes! 0.2) that looks like a Powerpoint Presentation. going to the south over the Keys the view is great, there's even a meteorological ballon that I could see in real life in my last trip to key West. Nice to see with the environmental upgrades, the custom trees, ocean textures, and of course Autogenius. Right now, If you want to make a virtual travel to the "Sunshine State" you gotta do it IFR, it's been raining for 3 weeks and the Airport has been closed average 4 hours a day because of bad weather ( I live very close to the middle marker of 9L. Actually, it's a nice opportunity to use Flightmax and chase a couple of thunderstorms out there!!

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I know that when most people think of Arizona, they think of a small, hot state with a big long hole in it. (Which isn't far from the truth :-lol) But just the other day I was looking at some FAA statistics for the world's busiest airports in terms of passengers served in 2001, and Phoenix ranked as number 11 in the world with approximately 35 million passengers. Phoenix used to be the 8th most populous city in the nation, and I believe it has moved up the list.Anyhow, the state capitol building is the only custom building that FS has for the entire state of Arizona. I felt that they should at least have modeled the Hilton and Bank One Ballpark, which are easily seen and distinguished from Sky Harbor. And if the city textures were to be at all realistic, you'd be able to see a swimming pool in practically every backyard throughout the city. :-)Oh, yeah, and Scum Devil Stadium is easily visible on the 25 and 26 runway approaches ... in real life, anyway.jkvato1.jpg

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Maryland's is there in Annapolis, it's just hard to see.

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Well, I grew up in Ohio but live in Iowa now. Your statement sounds like some of the questions I get when mentioning Ohio or Iowa to some dummy..."Is that the potato state?" :-roll :)Craig

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O.K. Based on feedback, I went and re-examined some cities and have moved 4 states off the MIA list. Ohio is now group 1. Thanks Lizardo, I would have never figured out that the "bagel on the shoe box" as you called it was the capital building.Wyoming is now group 2a. I don't know how I missed this. I must have been asleep when I finally reached Cheyenne :) Its pretty obvious just sitting on the runway.Maryland and Vermont are both group 2c. No excuses here. I just missed 'em. This particular model is smaller than the others and the darker coloring makes it really hard to see from any distance. I had to turn autogen completely off to find Maryland's in all the clutter.This still leaves 10 states MIA.

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Based on the Ohio experience, I searched the web for pictures of the capitals for the still missing states. Turns out that North Dakota and Louisiana are both present, they just don't look anything like what I was expecting (in addition, Louisiana's is about 4 miles south of where my map shows it.) And, as pointed out above, I just plain missed Missouri, so these 3 are "promoted out of the Leper Colony". Missouri joins 20+ other states in the 2a group while ND and LA go to group 1.I've re-examined the remaining 7 carefully and they all remain MIA. Kentucky required some deliberating. There IS a building in the right spot and the ground texture around it shows its suppossed to be important. The problem is that it bears not the slightest resemblance to the photos I found. So after much thought, Kentucky remains on "the list".That leaves the (hopefully) final tally at 12 custom, 31 generics, and 7, Connecticut, Delaware, Kentucky, Nebraska, New York, Oklahoma, and Virginia, missing. And still no clue as to why these 7 were left out. I can't find any pattern to city size, state size, number of Mac or Linux users, presence of Sun Microsystems offices, or anything else that they have in common.

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