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I posted this on another thread a few days ago, but I think it got buried. Has anyone else had a problem with electrical switches making the clicking sound after installing the 800-900 update? I had the click return once and then it disappeared again and hasn't returned since. All the lighting switches seem to be affected except Landing lights. I am just wondering if I am overlooking something or if something is wrong in my system.

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Hello Bob, Well it's a fact that they do indeed work correctly so if I may suggest if you have all the PMDG files handy to try a re-install? I would use the REMOVER TOOL here - http://www.precisionmanuals.com/downloads/inc_downloading.asp?iFile=209 and proceed to re-install in order. Let us know..Best Wishes,[h4]Randy J. Smith[/h4][h3]P M D G's 747-400[/h3][h4]coming to a runway near you[/h4][/font color]Caution! Not a real pilot, but do play one on TV ;-)AMD 64 3200+ | ASUS KV8 DELUXE | GFORCE 5700 ULTRA @535/1000 | Maxtor 6Y080M0 SATA 80 GIG | 512 DDR 400 | Windows Xp Pro | Windows Xp Pro 64 |

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>> Hello Bob,>> Well it's a fact that they do indeed work correctly so if I>may suggest if you have all the PMDG files handy to try a>re-install? I would use the REMOVER TOOL here -> http://www.precisionmanuals.com/downloads/inc_downloading.asp?iFile=209>> and proceed to re-install in order. Let us know..>>>Best Wishes,>[h4]Randy J. Smith[/h4]>[h3]P M D G's 747-400[/h3][h4]coming to a runway near you[/h4][/font color]>Caution! Not a real pilot, but do play>one on TV ;-)>>AMD 64 3200+ | ASUS KV8 DELUXE | GFORCE 5700 ULTRA>@535/1000 | Maxtor 6Y080M0 SATA 80 GIG | 512 DDR 400 | Windows>Xp Pro | Windows Xp Pro 64 |Just got back from a business trip ands first thing I did was download the removal tool and removed PMDG entirely. I even checked to make sure components were not there after removal. I reinstalled the 737-600 from the orginal disc, installed the 800 from the files I saved to a CD-rom and installed the update, after downloading the update again to make sure it wasn't corrupted in some way. Same exact problemThe switches that are silent are:LOGOPositionStrobeAnticollisionWingCab/UtilIFE/PassGround PowerThey all worked prior to update.

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Since I troubleshoot complex systems for a living, I decided to get to the bottom of this or at least narrow it down. I uninstalled everything again. Loaded up the 600 model from CD rom...switches all work. Then I loaded up the 800-900 from my CD-Rom...Switches still all work. Then I loaded update. Switches are silent again. My conclusion is the update has a definite bug.In addition to the switches I listed above, I realized that some more switches that I thought were supposed to be silent also work without the update. When installing the update the APU, Gen1, Gen 2, APU Gen all become silent as well

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Well you could be half right Bob, I have the sim running as I am typing and those switches each make a clicking noise. Now, can you tell me a specific model that you are trying this on? Winglet version? Cabin or virtual cockpit model? There certainly can be a cfg issue with one as it has come about here a couple of times..Best Wishes,[h4]Randy J. Smith[/h4][h3]P M D G's 747-400[/h3][h4]coming to a runway near you[/h4][/font color]Caution! Not a real pilot, but do play one on TV ;-)AMD 64 3200+ | ASUS KV8 DELUXE | GFORCE 5700 ULTRA @535/1000 | Maxtor 6Y080M0 SATA 80 GIG | 512 DDR 400 | Windows Xp Pro | Windows Xp Pro 64 |

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> Well you could be half right Bob, I have the sim running as>I am typing and those switches each make a clicking noise.>> Now, can you tell me a specific model that you are>trying this on? Winglet version? Cabin or virtual cockpit>model? There certainly can be a cfg issue with one as>it has come about here a couple of times..>>>Best Wishes,>[h4]Randy J. Smith[/h4]>[h3]P M D G's 747-400[/h3][h4]coming to a runway near you[/h4][/font color]>Caution! Not a real pilot, but do play>one on TV ;-)>>AMD 64 3200+ | ASUS KV8 DELUXE | GFORCE 5700 ULTRA>@535/1000 | Maxtor 6Y080M0 SATA 80 GIG | 512 DDR 400 | Windows>Xp Pro | Windows Xp Pro 64 |The switches are silent in every aircraft type and configuration.

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I have the same problem.Brad Brooks

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>I have the same problem.>>Brad BrooksBrad, I was wondering if you made any headway on getting these switches to "click again". It seems strange that there are only 2 of us with this problem .

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Well, it's not just the two of you who have a problem but, in my case, the switches DO click but noticeably more quietly than the others. Not sure why, and I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. :-) Just thought I'd let you know what's happening here.Paul Croft10 miles SE of EGLL

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My switches do not click, but if they do what they have to I can live with it. I hadn't noticed it before reading this, but now I know I miss it a little, and I will look here for an eventuel explanation.regards Ole

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It would seem that the program would call for the same switch sound for every activation of the Overhead Panel switches. Apparently the electrical switches are using a different audio sound than the other switches on the panel, and that sound is either not there after the update or it is never being called on by the program .

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Hi Bob,To answer your question, I have not made any progress in finding the cause of this. I agree with you that it seems the switches are calling up some other file or no file at all. I looked in the panel config to see if anything was out of whack, and it all appears normal. I am not a gauge programmer, so I don't know how to fix it. Like Zen said, maybe I'll just have to live with it. Just out of curiosity, what sound card are you using?Brad Brooks

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SB Live is my sound card, on my new Dell Desk Top.

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Hey Bob,I have the SB Live card with the latest updated drivers. Just for kicks today I went to get the Audigy LS card. I just installed it, and guess what?? The swithces click again! I would say it is another thing to add to the list of the problems I have had with the SB Live. I also had it on my Dell, which is a couple years old now. I have had a few problems with the card before, but this is now proof that it has some deficiencies. I recommend picking it up; it's relatively inexpensive, around $50.00. I think it will help the problem. Brooks

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I am not convinced that this is a sound card issue in my case. The click is there until I use the 800 update and then it instantly goes away. I checked all the click sounds for PMDG in the Sound folder and they all work properly when selected. This leads me to believe that the program is not calling for the click sounds when you move an electrical switch only after the update. If it was a sound card issue, I don't think the switches would ever work, update or not. It's like the intermittanly disappearing Elevator Trim sound unless I reselect the aircraft after FS9 startup and the Intermittant Spoiler problem. Seems to be some faulty code in the program.

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I see what you are saying. I also had everything working fine until the update. The only issue I had after the update was in the sound, which seemed to work fine before installation. As far as the trim sound goes, that is intermittent for me, but I believe it is supposed to be that way. I will adjust the trim, but no sound comes until there is significant movement of the trim. It hasn't disappeared totally for me. This was the case before the update anyway. I never had any of these other issues with the spoilers or battery drain or engine failure. I did have the bouncing landing, but that seems to have been fixed, either by my techniques or by the update. Either way, your theory may be correct about the sound; maybe there is some error. I wish I was smart enough to help you! Good luck with it.Brad

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Hi BobI think I've found the answer to this problem. I was having another look through the handbooks and looking at all the options in the menus when I noticed that, under the PMDG>737NG>Styles>Sounds menu, my volume was set to mid-level instead of normal. Once I set it to normal all my switches started to click at the same volume once more. Also, I no longer have to strain my ears to hear the PNF call 80 kts, V1 and Rotate.I'm not sure whether this was re-set as a result of the upgrade or not but, since it's a different 'options' panel from the one that originally came with the 600/700 version, I'm guessing it was. It also suggests that the way the volume adjustment works is somewhat cranky since it doesn't appear to adjust all the volumes so much as just turn some of the individual sounds up/down.Paul Croft10 miles SE of EGLL

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