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Stuttering 737

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Just reformatted and reloaded my hard drive with XP pro with SP2 installed. FS9 with no add-ons also installed which works perfectly. When I load PMDG 747 (v1.3b) all seems ok until I get to the aircraft selection page. When I select the PMDG737, the rotating model appears, frozen and not painted. After a minute or so, the default paint scheme appears and the ac rotates as normal. If however, I try to select another variant, the same happens. When I leave the ac selection page, it takes up to 90 seconds to move on, as does the fly now page. When i finally get to the cockpit, all is frozen for some considerable time. When I try to change views the same happens and so on......It's unflyable! Although it worked previously before I reloaded my HD. Any ideas? (NVidia GeForce 5900 FX card fitted with the laytest drivers...)Sean Mc

Sean,This is most likely a video driver issue. You need to tweak your XP system after a reload. DirectX and drivers up to par. Services off as needed. Check General MSFS FOrum for tips on tweaks and tips.Hope it helps,

Mats Johansson
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Also could be a memory issue. The selection of the aircraft in the menu causes the Airac to be loaded so this takes up most of the system resources untill it's completed..Best Wishes,[h4]Randy J. Smith[/h4]http://www.rawbw.com/~bdoolin/shinault/Animation1.gifCaution! Not a real pilot, but do play one on TV ;-)AMD 64 3200+ | ASUS KV8 DELUXE | GFORCE 5700 ULTRA @535/1000 | Maxtor 6Y080M0 SATA 80 GIG | 512 DDR 400 | Windows Xp Pro | Windows Xp Pro 64 |

Randy J Smith

Thanks guys.I'm familiar with the airac loading - I was doing quite well with FMCs and FSBuild and all before the reload and although the 737 always took a little longer to get going, it was never like this before. I have a gigabyte of RAM, and a huge hard drive, my video drivers are up to date, Direct X 9.0b ibstalled and Xp as optimised as I can optimise it! The trouble seems to just continue ad infinitum though. Every time you try to use the 737, the programme just keeps having these mini lock-ups. Still no wiser, but the only different factor in this reload is that I put XP SP2 on before I loaded FS9.

Sorry - forgot the sig....Sean Mc

Well I have not upgraded to SP2 yet. Maybe others who run the update with similar system specs as yours can comment if they have any issues. Best Wishes,[h4]Randy J. Smith[/h4]http://www.rawbw.com/~bdoolin/shinault/Animation1.gifCaution! Not a real pilot, but do play one on TV ;-)AMD 64 3200+ | ASUS KV8 DELUXE | GFORCE 5700 ULTRA @535/1000 | Maxtor 6Y080M0 SATA 80 GIG | 512 DDR 400 | Windows Xp Pro | Windows Xp Pro 64 |

Randy J Smith

I have also performed a clean install of WinXP Pro and SP2 (integrated). In my case I end up with DirectX9.0c not 9.0b. Don't think that's your issue however. I agree with above that this looks videodriver related. You're running nVidia graphics, while I use an ATI 9800 Pro. So I can't tell you where/how to check if the driver is running properly. The symptom you describe makes my feel like hardware acceleration is off. Did you install the correct chipset drivers of your motherboard? Many are integrated into SP2, but it might be worth to check...Henk-Jan

Just another thing to try, check your video card settings within Flight Sim itself. I know that doing a compleet format and having to remember what all your settings on the billions of programs we now run is a total nightmare.

If all else fails, send SP2 to the trash bin, as I have done and several people that I work with that had all kinds of problems on perfectly working machines after installing SP2. My company computer experts ( the people that do it for a living) recommend leaving SP2 on MS's server.)

i'm getting really confused with the issues people are having with xp sp2 and directx 9.0c.I decided to install sp2 to see what happens. absolutely no problems whatsoever. 1 noticeable difference was outlook express loaded a lot faster. Left directx at 9.0b for a while and now, only 20 minutes ago, I installed 9.0c and tried flight sim. Again, absolutely no problems. FPS were smooth and in the high 20's. No freezes or lock ups of any kind. One thing I thought of was that I have a program that cleans out spyware. I'm guessing that this causes problems for a lot of people as I know it did for me about 9 months ago before I got the spyware removal tool. If anyone does not have a spyware removal tool, GET ONE. I use lava soft ad aware.If you do have a spyware removal tool and are still getting freezes and poor fps, then completely disregard my post.:()I am running xp pro1GB of ddr ram2 hard drives, 3 partitions (MSFS is on C:)ATI 9700 pro with the DNA DRIVERS. (A few extra features)Systemworks which gets run everyday to check out the condition of the disk and all files on the disk including registry and active x controlsI run AS2004 with msfsI have Kazaa but have disabled the peer points manager and p2p networking in the msconfig. This may be the cause of some problems.If anyone would like, I could post my msfs settings for people to use.The only AC that drops my framerates to below 20 is the rfp 747-200 and only at Heathrow airport. Doesn't bother me too much though as I hear heathrow is a framerate hog.Goran

>i'm getting really confused with the issues people are having>with xp sp2 and directx 9.0c.>I decided to install sp2 to see what happens. absolutely no>problems whatsoever. 1 noticeable difference was outlook>express loaded a lot faster. Left directx at 9.0b for a while>and now, only 20 minutes ago, I installed 9.0c and tried>flight sim. Again, absolutely no problems. FPS were smooth>and in the high 20's. No freezes or lock ups of any kind. >One thing I thought of was that I have a program that cleans>out spyware. I'm guessing that this causes problems for a lot>of people as I know it did for me about 9 months ago before I>got the spyware removal tool. If anyone does not have a>spyware removal tool, GET ONE. I use lava soft ad aware.>If you do have a spyware removal tool and are still getting>freezes and poor fps, then completely disregard my post.>:()>I am running xp pro>1GB of ddr ram>2 hard drives, 3 partitions (MSFS is on C:)>ATI 9700 pro with the DNA DRIVERS. (A few extra features)>Systemworks which gets run everyday to check out the condition>of the disk and all files on the disk including registry and>active x controls>I run AS2004 with msfs>I have Kazaa but have disabled the peer points manager and p2p>networking in the msconfig. This may be the cause of some>problems.>If anyone would like, I could post my msfs settings for people>to use.>The only AC that drops my framerates to below 20 is the rfp>747-200 and only at Heathrow airport. Doesn't bother me too>much though as I hear heathrow is a framerate hog.>Goran>>The issue is that even MS admits that there are a percentage of users that have problems with SP2. The percentage I hear tossed about by even some MS tech folks is 10-15%..Now if you are not in that percantile, you will probably not have issues with SP2. That means that 85 people out of a hundred will state " I have no problems at all". This doesn't help the other 15%, however. Many of the people with problems have tried all the remedies suggested by MS and others like running Spyware, loading new drivers, turning off virus programs, reinstalling, formatting your hard drive, anything short of replacing your PC :) . Still no joy for many, including your's truly. I work for a very large MultiNational Electronics Company and manage their Technical Training. We are hearing that XP users that are installing SP2 and using it in conjunction with our equipment, are suddenly running into problems after the SP2 is installed. Not everyone, but enough people to make it a real PITA. So if you keep in mind that installing SP2 exposes you to a certain risk and the odds are a 15% problem rate, and you feel that this is an acceptable risk factor, then go for it. In my business, a 15% failure rate is totally unacceptable. By the way, if you want to read a bunch of the horror stories regarding SP2 and it's negative effects on FS, go to the XP- SP2 forum on this web site.

But, what exactly is the culprit that is causing people to have problems? I'm assuming there are always some kind of rogue files in someones PC. That's about the only thing I can narrow it down to. If I have xp and the next person has xp and he/she is having problems but we both have the same setup, the other pc must have some kind of glitch in it's file structure or even registry structure.Anyway, I hope MS nail it down for everyone having problems and they release a patch for the SP soon.Goran

Hi All,Just writing to say 'thank you' for all the help and advice. Thanks to the pointer towards reloading the chipset drivers, I did exactly this and lo and behold, all now appears to be working perfectly!Again, thanks.Sean Mc

>Hi All,>>Just writing to say 'thank you' for all the help and advice. >Thanks to the pointer towards reloading the chipset drivers, I>did exactly this and lo and behold, all now appears to be>working perfectly!>>Again, thanks.>>Sean McThat was me!! :+ :( Glad it worked out. Happy flying!Henk-Jan

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