Dirk,I think that is the point Bob is trying to make! ;-) The sounds from within the flight deck are different from the ones in the cabin. I wouldn't be surprised if the engine sounds are even lower on the real deck than in FS.Maybe one of the real world driver's could chip in and tell us? As Randy already stated the r/w pilots on the beta team were happy with the sounds.Cheers,

My wife 'whines' a lot more especially during take off. When the engines are off and i'm 'on chocks' the noise is completely different.http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/93147.jpg

ROFLMAO:-xxrotflmaoCheers,

Yikes!!! :-lol

Hi Bob,Not on this thread specifically, but you mentioned some problems with the 800-900 update(now fixed), and I wanted to say, this is the only reason I am hesitating over getting the larger aircraft - I want to, but have read reports that, in some cases, it has caused problems with flying the 600-700 series(I only remember one issue, which was that one user said autoland didn't work so well any more).I may be making something out of nothing, but I would like to know if the problem you reported above occurred when you "retrofitted" the 600-700 aircraft with features of the 800-900 series(for example, improved VC)?Many thanks,Frank

>Hi Bob,>Not on this thread specifically, but you mentioned some>problems with the 800-900 update(now fixed), and I wanted to>say, this is the only reason I am hesitating over getting the>larger aircraft - I want to, but have read reports that, in>some cases, it has caused problems with flying the 600-700>series(I only remember one issue, which was that one user said>autoland didn't work so well any more).>>I may be making something out of nothing, but I would like to>know if the problem you reported above occurred when you>"retrofitted" the 600-700 aircraft with features of the>800-900 series(for example, improved VC)?>>Many thanks,>FrankThe only problem I heard about after upgrade was that a few people ( including me) had some electrical switches suddenly stop clicking. This was a very small number of 800-900 owners. I honestly have been flying on the 800 since I fly for a Delta Virtual Airline and only the 800 comes in Delta Paint, so I don't know if the 6-7 series had any issues, but I don't think so.

"I guess the engines do not sound very much different in the cockpit than in the cabin."I based this idea on some short movies I downloaded from the wonderful www.a340.net. On this website, you can download free cockpit movies. In one of them, you can see an in-cockpit take-off, in which you can clearly hear the 737 engines whining. This was an old generation 737 though. You should go and see the movie, it's very nice.

Pricelessly funny and deeply politically incorrect!I assume your wife is not a regular visitor to the PMDG Support Forum? :-)BR,Frank

>>This program makes all your aircraft sound better,>including>>the AI.>>Most improvements are in wind noise around the landing gear,>>flaps and spoilers. I really like the way windscreen>windrush>>is simulated when descending through cloud turbulence, but>>your whole airport ambience is made more realistic via the>>fabulous take off and landing of other aircraft. It is>>payware, but you can run the trial versions before deciding.>>http://www.fshotseat.com/>>A number of other sounds are found in Avsim's library, such>as>>improved groundroll for heavy jets, but you need to>experiment>>with them untill you find some you like.>>As always, make backups of all your aircraft folders before>>doing any of this and remember, that if you go ahead, PMDG>>will not give you support.>>>How does this program work with PMDG? Are the 737 sounds,>better, the same, or not as good. Any frame rate inpact? >>No frames impact, with pmdg as well a other aircraft, the sounds are enhancments which improve the "feelthere" factor and in so doing, make everything sooooah much better. You can use the interface during flight to change volumesor switch sounds on or off and to save profiles for each a/c, but mostly it is automatic. My impression is that the program is very professionally done. So far I have had no problems at all.The sounds of AI landing and taking of at your favourite airport will have you just sitting and watching(and listeing.Good value for money.

>>>This program makes all your aircraft sound better,>>including>>>the AI.>>>Most improvements are in wind noise around the landing>gear,>>>flaps and spoilers. I really like the way windscreen>>windrush>>>is simulated when descending through cloud turbulence, but>>>your whole airport ambience is made more realistic via the>>>fabulous take off and landing of other aircraft. It is>>>payware, but you can run the trial versions before>deciding.>>>http://www.fshotseat.com/>>>A number of other sounds are found in Avsim's library, such>>as>>>improved groundroll for heavy jets, but you need to>>experiment>>>with them untill you find some you like.>>>As always, make backups of all your aircraft folders before>>>doing any of this and remember, that if you go ahead, PMDG>>>will not give you support.>>>>>>How does this program work with PMDG? Are the 737 sounds,>>better, the same, or not as good. Any frame rate inpact? >>>>>No frames impact, with pmdg as well a other aircraft, the>sounds are enhancments which improve the "feelthere" factor>and in so doing, make everything sooooah much better. You can>use the interface during flight to change volumesor switch>sounds on or off and to save profiles for each a/c, but mostly>it is automatic. My impression is that the program is very>professionally done. So far I have had no problems at all.>The sounds of AI landing and taking of at your favourite>airport will have you just sitting and watching(and listeing.>Good value for money.>I got the program since I asked the question. It is GREAT!!!!

Can anyone recommend to me to some realistic 737 sound files for the PMDG 737?Regardspaul

Paul,The default PMDG sounds are realistic enough for our NG pilots on the beta team. So I'll recommend the default NG sounds that ships with the product. ;-)Cheers,