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...anyone more think it would be fun with a PMDG groupflight on IVAO now that they have their new IvAp online client? Started my online flying on VATSIM but moved over to IVAO to check their new IvAp client and haven't looked back since.So, anyone more than me flying on IVAO and think a real PMDG groupflight would be fun?

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I am waiting quite anxiously, since cruising around at Mach .81 tops is getting BOOOORING.

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Hello nameless,Well...considering the amount of replies in this thread it looks like we will have to find company elsewhere.

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It's busy enough in the skies of IVAO I guess everybody is on its own there...Don't know how you want to "group-hug" through the sky anyway?On a long flight I sometimes try to contact other airliners that come from the oposite direction and ask them for the weather on Unicom in empty atc airspace.Not al answer, but some do.Teeloo

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Hi Teeloo,I agree that the IVAO skies are rather crowded as it is already. What I meant by a PMDG groupflight is that I think it would be fun if as many PMDG captains as possible gathered at a specific airport at a predetermined time and then did a flight together to a predetermined destination.These kind of PMDG groupflights have been done before but on VATSIM and it has been great fun and I think it could be even more fun now on IVAO with their new IvAp client that allows you to see the surrounding traffic in a much better and more smooth way. Also, their new client is very easy for everyone both to install and also setup for multiplayer sessions compared to all special programs needed to fly online on VATSIM (Squawkbox, sbhost.dll, sbrelay etc etc...)If you're an online pilot I'm sure you're aware of similar kind of groupflights are done almost every day on IVAO but by other organizations, virtual airlines etc.

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WestCoast ATC (www.westcoastatc.com) had PMDG specifid flights often, and has almost DAILY flights with FULL atc, using stricktly FS9 Multiplayer and Teamspeak.In my opinion it's the easiest, yet most realistic online flying with ATC out there.

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Honestly?I don't like to trail behind a whole bunch that much.I think it isn't really realistic anyway and I am more fond of the scattered traffic (as in real life).I know it becomes more and more aparent that traffic increases and more and more flights head the same way. But a whole group? Nah.Too predictive.Much more fun to not know what to expect airborne.Easy fly-in, or crowded approach sectors. I prefere the random.Especially with the community increasing it becomes more and more like a copy of the real world.Just thought saying that.I know there are others out there thinking else.regardsTeeloo

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Hi Teeloo,Of course you should express your 2 cents on the subject and I can see what you mean...and agree that with growing online traffic the "need" for group flights may decrease. And of course always flying like a big caravan one after each other wouldn't be fun but once in a while I think it could be a fun event...and I know the ATC think it's fun since it's a big challenge for them to handle that amount of simultaneous traffic.All the best and happy flights Teeloo,

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Thanks! ;-)I think Fly-ins are really cool though...Are they still held?Teeloo

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Have been on a private little "world-tour" lately so haven't really looked for them but a good place to find all planned events and activities in different parts of the world is clicking the "Upcoming Events" screen on IVAO's front page and I'm sure VATSIM has something similar to that.Cheers,

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Hi there Clayton!Have you tried IVAO yet and their new online client? Like I said in my original post, I used to fly on VATSIM myself but after giving IVAO a try I haven't looked back since. This isn't really fitted for the PMDG forum so I won't go any further in this comparison more than suggest you give it a try at least - I don't think you'll be dissapointed.Cheers,

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hi Richardbut can you tell me what exactly is better in IVAO, as i have been a member for VATSIM for many many years and i am pretty happy there.

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Hi again Clayton,I don't say that IVAO in itself is better than VATSIM, but what IS better is their client (IvAp) you use to connect to the network. You will see all the surrounding traffic (other players) almost as smooth as the AI traffic when you're not online. Also, both the installation of the client as well as the process for getting connected is a couple of 100% easier than it is with VATSIM and all different programs/utilities you need there.Cheers,

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sounds good,but i wish there was just one online site, just imagine the traffic then, now there is 2 sites so its kinds diluted.

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.. and there is actually a 3rd one... (to have this post go completely "off-topic" and have the "main-players" mentioned :-) )www.flightproject.netsimple and great software, multiplayer aircraft in real-airline liveries (with animated rudders, flaps, lights, engine sound, etc...), smooth movements (no jumping, stuttering) etc...Have a good day, and pray for the "Queen to arrive soon :-)"Cheers,Norbert - CLX001CEO Virtual Cargoluxwww.virtualcargolux.orgpmdg_banner.gif

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Hi there,Agree FPI also have a great software package and great and smooth online traffic. The problem with FPI is the low numbers of simultaneous connected ATC/pilots. Actually went from VATSIM to FPI - loved the pilot client software and the smooth movements and all that but like already mentioned the low numbers of connected ATC/pilots made me give IVAO a try and that's where I'll stay until something even better comes around.I also wish there were only one real good online network but I doubt that will ever happen. And in some other aspects, I think it's good we have a number of "competitors"...think we (the users) will benefit from that.Cheers,

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I myself am a long-time VATSIM user and will remain so. Just FYI, the final beta release for SB3 is out with hopefully the release canidate coming very shortly. The thing about IVAO is that while Europe is covered very well, the USA hardly has coverage when compared to VATSIM. When SB3 is released, an all new model set covering practically every airline in the world will ship with it as well.

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Hi Eric,You mentioned one important thing that differ the networks from eachother - that VATSIM might be a better choice when it comes to ATC coverage in US whereas IVAO might be the preferred one when flying mainly in Europe.I will definitly have a look at SB3 when it arrives...but I have kept waiting for it since I started my online flying on VATSIM...and that was over a year ago... :-roll

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I'm not sure about Australia but I would suggest downloading a program I wouldn't wanna be without called ServInfo. I'm pretty sure you'll find it in no time either here in AVSIM's file library or by doing a search for it using Google for example. It will give you a very good picture of all online traffic and there you should also be able to find out which network seems to give you the best ATC for Australia.All the best,

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