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Be careful when you buy Wilco products. They are ALL frame rate killers and they give the worst support if they answer you at all!!. Want proof?, just check the "recommended" comp specs for the new products on their websight.!!!!!

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As far as framerates, hopefully Avsim or some of the others will do a review of upcoming products. Usually these revies do a good job of addressing framerate issues. I have never had a problem with any of their products where I might have needed to call their online support.

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Of course, "flydog" didn't list his system specs. That may be a consideration.

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Funny enough, that's what I though "recommended system specifications" are there for. If you don't have at least that system (and in my experience, that system plus a bit more processor and a little more RAM), you're just not going to have any level of satisfaction with a product.Remember when Microsoft promised us that Windows 95 would run on a 386?

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Wilco's airports always look great. As pointed out if you have a low end system, like mine...:( your frames will suffer. My biggest gripe about their Airport series is the included adventures and aircraft. Nothing but problems with that stuff. I don't use them at all. The airports always work fine. I had a good experience with 767PIC. No complaints there. I had a slow response on a couple of e-mails when Airport 2K vol. 2 came out but the response was helpful. Anyway, the new stuff sounds promissing. I'm going to need a new computer to run it though, hopefully next year. Another Airbus package? I guess the Airbus fans have to be liking that!Anyway, Cheers...Scott

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ALL are framerate killers? Most, maybe, but not all.Wilco published the Pilot in Command 767, which is one of (if not the) best addons out there. It's also very framerate friendly.Jon (KSEA)

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It did run on a 386.....I've seen it running on a 386..... SX 33MHz I believe.....Took about 5+ minutes to boot, but I've seen it work... hehehe

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I find it hilarious when you look at the difference between the minimum and recommended system specifications.

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:-lol :-lol :-lol I love how companies manage to isolate the majority of people who don't have $2000 to shell out for a brand new P4 2.5 ghz, 1024 ram, 128 mb GF4 monster. Guess I'm not getting Airport 2002, seeing as my processor falls 100 mhz short of the minimum :-lol Pretty ridiculous how much performance that demands, IMO.Scott

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Yes, Wilco is the publisher of PIC 767 but I don't beleave they should get credit for the 767 being such a good FS2000 product.The worst part about all Wilco's stuff is the install packages.Again with their upcoming releases there will be more extras that no one wants and files installed with no option to delete them.We already have an exceptional Airbus and panel by Phoenix and most the airports are already available. I can think of many airports that are needed for FS2002 which have been overlooked by Wilco.I have bought my last Wilco product.SteveCYYZ

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I personally disagree about this opinion regarding Wilco. Wilco has produced some of the most detailed aiports for FS like no other have done. Regarding frames rates - is subjective - Many have now 1.7 ghz pc - and I

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Go Ray! Go Ray! Go Ray!!!!!!! He Makes a valid point..... :-)

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Scott,Do you fly out of Lake In the Hills, too? I wonder if I've ever seen you before.Jason

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Well, the sig is semi-outdated. I've never actually flown out of Lake in the Hills, but I was supposed to have started some lessons, but that fell through, then I was going to be joining CAP at Lake in the Hills, but I haven't had the chance to go yet. Even though I've never actually flown out of there, I guess I sort of consider it my "home airport" :-lol (long story short, too lazy to fix sig).Scott

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I've found Wilco's service policy to be appaling in the past. Personally I wont be buying Wilco products as I'm still miffed about the previous Airport series not being updated and the lack of response when asked about future plans. The last release crunched my frame rate to the point of being able to go make a cup of tea and enjoy a nice digestive.The airports though very nice are technically badly designed in my humble view. The comparison I use are German Airports (great !) and Gary Summons series. All superb renditions but without the overhead.As far as having to upgrade or buy a new machine, forget it. I often wonder why is it I can "play" far more technically comprehensive graphical games that scoot along on my steam driven system, yet one badly drawn / designed airport / plane, crunches my system.I'm sure theres another debate to dicuss on the latter points but would hate to see this thread locked simply because George has written something factual once again.George

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No problem there. I hung out at 3CK long before I learned to fly. Thinking about joining the CAP, huh? Lively bunch that lot is! ;) I've seen them practice marching in the parking lot numerous times in full uniform. They look a lot like ROTC to me. They have high school kids that have more medals and decorations on their uniforms than a full US Army General. ;)

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Hi George,Where do you get the Gary Summons series?Thanks,Bruce.

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The PIC767 external view absolutely destroyed my frame rates on a P3 1GHZ,512 Ram and GEFORCE 3 TI200.Thats why a lot of simmers with this product use POSKY'S superb GMAX 767 models.Other than I have had no problem with the software, which by the way is excellent!.I also purchased thier 737 for FLY! a while ago and when I email them about the situation with updating the model to work with FLY2,they replied within 2 days with an answear.That's not too bad.Cheers

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Good string, not limited to Wilco, though. On my dated, PIII800, 32 meg GEF2GTS, and 512 ram, I have to pass several of the add packages, - due to frame rate hits......Another interesting point, imo, is many simmers are no-longer chasing FS performance with new, $1,000 + hardware..... I've read more often than ever, than many have reached an acceptable level of sim performance, like me, with 2 year old technology. I've also found, I have to skip many of the great adds, just as in the past, due to performance requirements. Guess the difference this time (FS2002 vs. 2000, 98, etc.) - is the "base FS package" is so good, the "adds" aren't a "requirement" to really enjoy a good simming experience. In the past - the adds were necessary to create some level of realism. Guess that means we're advancing !On every release before, I'd jump to the hardware upgrades to get performance up to some minimum level, within my budget. This time - I'm not - the sim is going just fine, locked at 15, sliders mid- to mid +, and infrequent flights into heavy scenery areas like SFO, JFK, LAX, ATL, etc.(And, I've been "hooked" since 1985, so this ain't all new to me....)RonKORL

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