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I've just gotten a new computer, however, I can't get Servinfo to work on it. I'm not running any firewall on the computer, however, I have a router with a firewall. Does anyone know the proper ports that Servinfo needs to use so that I can open them?Thanks,

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ServInfo is straight HTTP. If you can use a browser, it will work (unless you have a firewall that blocks applications by name).cz

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Very curious, I just downloaded ServInfo and installed it on a computer in a different room and it works fine. Tried downloading a new copy to my FS computer and running that, on the off chance the download was bad, but no joy.Must be some setting that I'm forgetting about on the new computer. Can't update the squawkbox IPs or try to get online without this.Any ideas, anyone...?

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Not sure what is going on with this one as well, never hear of it. Did you try to e-mail the creator of Servinfo?As for the IPs152.104.96.225 ASIA-S200.223.140.250 BRAZIL-C137.56.42.18 EUROPE-C212.47.22.26 EUROPE-CE195.205.20.162 EUROPE-E1195.78.48.15 EUROPE-E2195.23.79.203 EUROPE-W210.15.254.125 OCEANIA80.249.98.88 UK-166.98.168.65 USA-S166.221.192.84 USA-S3208.224.174.24 USA-SE216.93.170.44 USA-WCopy that to your ipaddr.txt file in your SB folder delete all the old ones first. That is what Servinfo is giving right now.

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Many thanks Dave, I'll get in touch with the editor and see if I can work it out.

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Fired off an email to the creator of Servinfo a few days ago, but no reply so far. Anyone out there have any ideas...anyone?Thanks to Dave, I was able to update my SB server info, but I'm connecting blind. I have tried using Vatsim's Who's online, but Servinfo would be soooo much nicer.

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Hello Chuck,Sorry I couldn't reply your mail, I was away and just returned from vacations. If you still have this problem check this (copied from a post I have made some time ago at this forum):This could be a problem that has been reported to me by some other users recently and is caused by a virus infection (a trojan type). In this case do the following:Search for a system file named "protocol" (NOT protocol.ini, just protocol with NO EXTENSION - if you have set windows explorer to hide known extensions you might confuse these two files). It is located at the "C:Windowssystem32driversetc" directory for WinXP (for Win98 it is in "C:Windows").If you find that this file is missing from this directory then you are probably not infected but that's causing the problem to ServInfo - I will send you this file.If the file is there then check that the above location has not been altered in the windows registry (that's one of the things this virous would do). To do this open the registry editor:Start -> Run -> REGEDITnavigate (or seach) to this key:HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESYSTEMCurrentControlSetServicesTcpipParameters(could also instead of "CurrentControlSet" be two keys with ControlSet001 and ControlSet002, or something similar)and see if the value is :"DataBasePath"="%SystemRoot%System32driversetc"If it is instead anything else (e.g "DataBasePath"="%SystemRoot%help") then you have been infected from this virus. Restoring this entry to the correct value will make ServInfo work again. However, you should use your antivirus software to check for the infection. A long time ago I have found these links for a virus that does this thing:http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcen...jan.qhosts.htmlhttp://us.mcafee.com/virusInfo/default.asp...&virus_k=100719but there might be other viruses that could do the same.Michael

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YOU ARE A GOD!!!:-lol I have been fighting with this for weeks. A couple of quick edits to the registry and good as new. I have Norton working full time now and just finished sorting out my router.Thanks again.:-beerchug

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Hi there!Well, I can not connect to any server on Servinfo v2.02 at all. I have looked through all the help topics and looked through every forum I could find, but nothing helps. I just get the blinking "loading", and nothing happens?1. I don't have any viruses or trojans (I tried what Michael said, and I didn't have that trojan problem, and I also tried using that protocol file in my system32/drivers/etc folder). I've used various freeware scanning programs to check this out. 2. I don't use a firewall or router. I have tried using proxy and non-proxy connection settings. I have tried connecting to IVAO and custom networks, but the same thing happens. "Loading" and nothing else.3. I don't use any anti-virus software.4. I've also tried holding down shift before clicking on 'Vatsim' or 'Ivao'. Nothing happens. I've also reinstalled the program about 10 times. Still doesn't load anything.I have XP Home with SP1. I use a standard LAN broadband connection with, as i've said, no firewall enabled.What on Earth could it be that's causing this!?!?

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Sam,You have a direct broadband connection to the Internet with no firewall, router, or antivirus, and you *also* have COMM trouble using simple, HTTP-based software. You say your system is clean, but how do you know? Available evidence seems to contraindicate that. I do PC and network support for a major regional clinic, and we record rashes of RPC probes monthly. Netsky is particularly active in email right now. We're clean, but we spend dozens of manhours and hundreds of $$ on antivirus and checkups. So tell me, how DO you keep your system clean? I'm sure my employers would love to learn your secret! ;-)It would seem, absent further info conclusively documenting otherwise, that you must indeed have *some* sort of unauthorized impediment, possibly in your winsock files -- heck, spyware I've run across does that.What about your hosts file? And can you ping one of the servers?Also, you need to have enough room for SI to create temp files. Do you?

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First of all, thanks for the reply.Well, of course, in the modern world of internet surfing, even the most high-tech of AV software will not stop some trojans or other annoying spyware, as they update those malicious programs to stay ahead of most AV software. All I can tell you after running various system scans is that my system has no detectable virus or spyware (I run a fully updated "Adaware SE" twice a week). I may have some trojan that I am unaware of, but it is DEFINITELY not a "qhost" trojan problem that Michael documented, because I have vigorously checked through every relevant registry key. So i'm asking for help. What other trojan could it be? Where could the problem be lying? What should I be looking for in the winsock files? What hosts files should I look for and what should I be looking for within those files?I pinged the UK-1 server (80.249.98.88) just fine with an average of 45ms. I successfully pinged the USA-S1 server (66.98.168.65) averaging 147ms. I have over 6GB left on my hardisk (I have only one hardisk) so adequate space (or lack thereof) is NOT an issue either.Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Well...In the realm of single-variable testing, the obvious thing to try is to borrow a computer with SI already installed and working, bring it over to your place and see if it worked there. A computer which used the same connection type (IOW PPPOE, DHCP, hardwired IP, whatever) as yours would be best, not only to minimize the work but to also minimize calls from the friend who loaned you his box and now that he's got it back, can't connect! :-grrForced to work within the confines of one box, and in order of "effort to do and undo", first thing I'd do is make sure my hosts file was intact. (five paragraphs about hosts file snipped out after testing and finding that while it breaks, it doesn't break in the way you're experiencing)Next, I'd try Safe Mode with Networking, first trying a browser (to see if you can get any pages at all), then SI. I don't have time to test, but I suspect that either you'll not be able to browse or get SI data, or you'll be able to do both. If you can do both, then some software that loads in Unsafe Mode ;-) is the problem.Next, pinging. The servers you mention aren't the ones that SI contacts to get "who's online" data. Try pinging these:

  • *] usa-w.vatsim.net
  • vatsim.liveatc.net
  • level27.ca

If you can get them, comm isn't the problem.You should have vatsim.loc and ivao.loc files in your ServInfo folder. Do you?Finally -- you don't say how you know you're virus-free. Viruses and the things AdAware (and SpyBot) look for "ain't" in the same class, except in the case of a few examples of the very worst spyware I've found which is so much like a virus that it is, in fact, detected by virus scanners. Viruses only sometimes use startup locations visible to msconfig (in case that is what you're relying on besides AA). There are literally dozens of registry startup locations, and (by naming a dll something else) virtually an infinity of file-based locations available. Unless you can claim expert-level knowledge of these starting places, then (since you don't mention any means besides AA for your basis of knowing you're clean), and lacking AV protection, I must gently, respectfully, but firmly as I know how, point out that you can't, in reality, know. I have seen online-based virus scanners fail to pick up the more subtle viruses. I have seen infected machines seem clean after installing a Windows-based scanner and scanning with current defs. I have seen more than a few already-infected machines that passed even clean-boot-to-DOS-based scanners, but turned out to have (EG) 27 virus-infected files when scanned by connecting the disk to another machine and running a Windows-based scanner. You owe it to yourself to get at least a DOS-based scanner and thoroughly (that means every file, not just executables) scan with current defs. Unless you're on AOL (which has always had a shielding effect, not to mention the current version which offers some kind of actual AV), if you are running a broadband connection with XP, no router or NAT, no AV, no firewall, and turn out to not have a virus -- I'll eat crow. :-erks You'll be the first in five years of pretty intensive (for a front line support person) virus work.

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Thanks for a reply again. It would help me if you were less of a self-proclaiming expert in networking, and more of a help in actually telling me what virus(es) could be stopping me connecting to the Servinfo listed servers, and what my winsock files should look like?The only "virus" i've seen on any forum (the forum mentioning it happens to be this one) that is reported to stop loading servers is that "qhosts" trojan, and as i've said, I don't have it after checking all of the relevant registry keys. I have run a MacAfee 2005 full system scan on the newest defs, and not found a single thing. I've run Ad-Aware SE, Spybot S&D, and Spy Bazooka without detecting more than a single piece of spyware that would not harm Servinfo at all. So just go and eat that crow ;)*gives you a knife and fork*Well, after pinging the servers you gave me, ony "level27.ca" didn't give a response. Both of the others gave over 180ms.I know that Servinfo tries those servers as well after a failed attempt to connect, and despite me pinging them (not including level27.ca) without a problem, I can't get Servinfo to load.I don't know anyone else with XP Home SP1 that uses Vatsim or Servinfo, so that option is not viable.Now i'm going to reboot in safe mode with networking and see what happens..I feel that i'm going to call someone at Microsoft soon..

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Hi again,I've now re-installed McAfee 2005, loaded the latest defs, and performed a full system scan.It found two small viruses (low threat), so it actually worked, but still no affect on Servinfo. I even disabled the windows system restore function before deleting the viruses and restarted my pc. I then re-installed Servinfo v2.02, but it still won't load any data!I do have both the VATSIM.loc and ivao.loc files. I even have that little 'protocol' file in my system32/drivers/etc folder that helped someone else with this same issue. I am now officially stumped. I want to try rebooting in safe modus allowing networking, but i'm afraid that will mess up some settings on my system.I'll wait and see what you have to say, beachcomer, and then call Microsoft. I have a feeling it's an XP Home SP1 problem. That would be no surprise at all!The person who started this thread said he couldn't get it to work with XP Home, but it worked fine on the same connection with XP Pro.

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Actually, I was trying to get it to work with XP Pro. I had no problems getting it to work on XP Home. You say you have no problems that have already been pointed out? Did you check the registry entry closely? Just having the correct file in the right folder won't do it if the registry is pointing to the wrong file. Double check the last paragraph in the mfrantz post above. I also had another glitch where I couldn't open notepad...it had somehow been renamed notpad. Had to hunt down the executable and rename it. Not sure how much help I can be, but will keep checking back.ChuckCYXU

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Thanks for the reply, Chuck.Well, i've triple checked my registry keys for that trojan mfrantz mentioned called "qhost", and I don't have it. My registry keys look fine.I do have that protocol file (mfrantz sent it to me) in my System32/drivers/etc folder, but as you say, I probably haven't set up my registry to point to that file. What key should point to that file? I saw the post with the person who installed the protocol file in that folder, and he just said that that cured the problem, without saying he had to change any settings. So I naturally assumed just installing that file into that folder would cure it? But it didn't.Any ideas? Is there a key that should point to that protocol file?Thanks.

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I'm glad you haven't found the trojan file, but you will need to check your registry to ensure that the database path is ok. Go back up to the mfrantz post in this thread and follow the directions in the last paragraph. It's not difficult and sounds like it might be your problem.This is the entry you need to check...http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/111825.jpgYou can see the highlighted entry on the right? That's the one you need to make sure it is correct. If it isn't pointing to your system 32 drivers, it ain't gonna work. If the value needs to be corrected, just double click on the highlighted area and a window will open to allow you to edit it. Good luck.

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Thanks for the reply.I checked it out about 10 times, and that's exactly what I have for that key. It shows EXACTLY what you have there...I also looked thoroughly through every detail mentioned in the symantec link given by Michael. I didn't find any of those issues in my resgistry. My registry is clean as far as I know.So now i'm really giving up..Out of interest, I found and installed v2.00, and that came up with the famous "error #0". I've run McAfee 2005 (fully updated) and cleaned my system. I've run a fully updated Ad-Aware SE and cleaned my system of spyware. I've disabled system restore before rebooting, and the problem of not connecting STILL persists. So there must be something there in my registry that isn't known, or v2.02 just won't run in XP Home with SP1. It's so weird because I can ping all the servers (apart from level27.ca) with no problem, but Servinfo won't find them when I run it..This is the most annoying PC problem i've EVER HAD!!

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Sam, >It would help me if you were less of a self-proclaiming expert in networking...If you'll read my messages again, you'll see that I have not claimed expert knowledge of networking. I stated that you, sir, running without an antivirus solution could not know that you were virus-clean unless you had expert-level knowledge of all the starting places. I certainly do not have expert-level knowledge of the starting places, that's why I wouldn't dream, even on a bet, of running even a dialup Internet connection without competent and current antivirus, as I've been advising my clients since at least 1998 when I first became alarmed at the trend away from disk-based viruses towards email and internet-based ones. It is less than useless to try pinpoint solutions against possible viruses, when their variety, numerous versions, and ability to morph makes a broad solution imperative, and when broad solutions using the power of the machine to try every permutation is so readily available. In the second place, I don't remember virus names so well without going back through the old call tickets, something beyond the scope of this sort of tech support, in the first place. :-)I gave my experiences and list of virus behaviors in an effort to try to help you see that you couldn't have considered all the ways they can attack your system, and that you couldn't conclusively know you were clean. You responded with a virus scan (the desired behavior), although potentially flawed by not being DOS-based or through a second machine, so far as your writings convey. And I have to take off both shoes to count the clients who have been running McAffee but had a virus, anyway -- mostly due to their convoluted update and non-transparent reporting of your definitions and subscription dates.*puts down knife and fork*I'll not be eating any crow, since you did find something, although admittedly it wasn't the major something I certainly expected, based on your exposure and risk level. Exactly what, I had no idea, and now the problem is possibly (and only that, due to no secondary-attached or DOS-based testing reported) on a different level. You haven't said the results of safe-mode testing, which was a predicate to my comments about viruses. You also misread my suggestion for another machine. I didn't say it had to be the same version and SP level of XP, just needed to have SI installed and working, and preferably have the same method of connecting to the Internet; IOW, PPPOE if that's what you're using, LAN if that's what you're using, etc.RE: XP Professional, don't follow that rabbit trail! My own system and I'm sure many others'is XP Home SP1, so I can tell you that SI 2.02 will run on such a setup. It has run from PPPOE and is currently running behind a 2Wire (brand name) router. Don't get hung up on XP version, you have some other problem.If I were onsite with that system, I'd bring my PC to test your Internet setup, then remove your hard drive and attach it to my system to do a scan from a known clean system. Then I'd do the safe-mode testing (if my box worked and your system was clean), and then, if safe mode allowed browsing but SI didn't work, I'd do a DOS-level image of your system, rename your Windows folder, make a clean installation of XP SP1, install SI after doing internet setup, and see what the result was. If it worked there, then it's conclusively software-related in your XP installation, but it's going to be very difficult and time-consuming to root out. You might try an in-place upgrade using the XP CD. Otherwise, it would be least time-consuming to just remain with the clean install and reinstall software that you use on as-needed basis until you're substantially all back. Not a happy solution, but it will work.If new Windows doesn't work, we're talking hardware, predicated on my machine being able to connect to SI at your place.OTOH, if the safe-mode test allowed both browsing and SI, then I'd do clean-boot testing until I isolated the problem. Here's the MS article on how to do that: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?...kb;en-us;310353 (Edit: you'll have to copy and paste this link, I couldn't get it to link properly and customers are calling).If browsing didn't work in safemode, I'd proceed to clean-boot testing, but I'd be proceeding on faith, without the advantage of knowing it was definitely going to produce results.The above should pretty well cover all the bases, concept-wise: location, software, hardware. Conclusions cannot be drawn until all the steps have been done, unless the "smoking gun" is discovered along the way. I realize you're frustrated. This is due to trying this and that, in pinpoint fashion, and getting exactly nowhere. The truly difficult computer problems for me have always turned out to be a combination of several things. The only way I've ever been able to solve them is by taking the system as a whole, then methodically eliminating each link in the chain in step-by-step fashion, and I urge you to follow this same method. It's tedious, but will yield results. I've given you the entire system, as I see it (minus the things you've already done, like reinstalling SI from the registry up): your location (friend's machine), your installed software (conclusive, reliable virus removal & safe-mode testing), your OS (clean-boot and clean windows installation), and your hardware (what's left after the other tests). If you will follow these steps, and not skip around, you can conclusively (not a word I use trivially) eliminate all the factors until you've found the problem. You'll have to do the work, obviously, and there's lots to do. It's easy to blow off. You're frustrated. Me, too. It is frustrating to stay up late or take time out of the workday in an effort to help someone who then "bites" you for your effort. My cat does this, but he's so upset and hurting that I take his bites with a grain of salt -- as I do yours. Absent anyone chiming who's faced this exact problem and fixed it (another pinpoint) I sincerely hope you'll follow the steps, and fully report your progress. I'm interested to hear.Best Regards,--Steve

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Hi Steve,I'm sorry for "biting" at you, I was, and still am, as you pointed out, VERY frustrated, with no clear solution at the moment of writing this. I'm sorry I bit at you, it was not meant to offend, but to invoke a reply that gave me more details and specifics beyond "check your registry and use anti virus". Well, it worked, and I now have a VERY detailed and specific list to work through, for which I am very grateful, Steve. :)I will try each point of your proposed process to remedy my problem, and report on my results. I am VERY reluctant to reinstall XP, as I have over 8gb of add-ons for FS9 that would mean DAYS of non-stop reinstalling to fully restore. I am starting to think that Vatsim's "who is online" is sufficient, and that Servinfo v2.02 is not worth this length of hassle, but I am a persistent and stubborn person that will not rest until I know what this problem is. I will start with a safe boot allowing networking to see if I can browse and use SI. I must be able to browse the net as I can do so now with no problem, and I can also ping every server on SI's list (apart from level27.ca that I haven't tried again since the day before yesterday). I am truly baffled as to what this problem is. So now starts the painstaking process of elimination, a process that is going to eat chunks out of my soul. Thanks for your help and patience, Steve. It is greatly appreciated :)

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Hi again, SteveI'm just curious, does SI leave keys in the registry somewhere? You said "reinstalling from the registry up". I haven't tried removing anything in the registry that SI has installed there, frankly because I didn't know SI installed registry keys or files at the registry level.Do you know which keys they are (if SI creates any keys that is, i'm not entirely sure)? And if so, could you tell me where they are located? Maybe removing them and reinstalling SI after i've done the McAfee and Ad-Aware "clean up" will prove to be a positive result?If that doesn't work, what do you think about a registry fix (i.e a program that removes any and all misplaced or malignant keys and files in the registry)? I think it's worth a shot before I do a clean install that would leave me with DAYS of work to reinstall valuable programs and add-ons.Please tell me your thoughts on this, Steve.Sam

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Sam,ServInfo does not install any regisry keys at all. It does not mess with any system files. SI installation involves only copying the files in the .zip to a folder of your choice. ServInfo settings are held in a servinfo.ini file that is created on first run in this same folder. I would suggest you try to delete this file and run ServInfo again, but I guess you have tried that already. I am very sorry I cannot be any more helpful with your problem here. The fact that version 2.00 gives you an "error 0" message is for me a confirmation that your problem is related with the protocol file. In all cases of users (and they were a lot) that had this problem it always was caused either by a missing protocol file or a corrupted registry key that pointed to the wrong path for the protocol file. This is the first time that neither of these two solutions works, so I really don't know what to say. Of course, it might be possible that this behaviour (hanging on download request, or "error 0" in v.2.00) could be also caused by something else than a protocol file problem. But I have never seen such a case so far. Regards,Michael

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Hey, Sam, I'm glad you're still with me! I'm notorious for bashing on a problem, 'way beyond what's reasonable, insensibly almost, until I beat it or know the reason why. I'm glad you're that way, too, it is the essential ingredient to solving unsolveable problems.Sorry about the monospace text, but there's some stuff below that might need it.>I'm just curious, does SI leave keys in the registry somewhere?Michael (SI's author) has given The Word on registry keys. I still believe something, probably software, possibly hardware or your ISP, is behind this (although I truly don't see how your ISP could block SI but not regular browsing, although Parental Controls could do it).Brain is still working on this, and here are a couple of other things to try first:3. hosts file - I didn't come back to you about that, since testing revealed it wouldn't break in the way that you're experiencing, still, this causes COMM problems and you're having one. I should know by now that the fact that something breaks in a different way doesn't mean that what I'm thinking of *isn't* the problem, so it's worth a try, especially since it's in the folder pointed to by the registry entry Wrencha (Chuck). Look in that path for the file "hosts". That's it, no extension. Open that file with notepad, if it is stock (unmodified) there should be only one line not commented out (preceded with a "#"), and it says "127.0.0.1 localhost". Any other lines will have been added by a spyware removal program or by a virus or spyware (unless you're on a corporate network). If there are other entries, test with the backup file as follows: right-click the hosts file, rename it to something else like hosts.bak. Create a new text file named hosts.txt. Put the following in it:# Copyright © 1993-1999 Microsoft Corp.## This is a sample HOSTS file used by Microsoft TCP/IP for Windows.## This file contains the mappings of IP addresses to host names. Each# entry should be kept on an individual line. The IP address should# be placed in the first column followed by the corresponding host name.# The IP address and the host name should be separated by at least one# space.## Additionally, comments (such as these) may be inserted on individual# lines or following the machine name denoted by a '#' symbol.## For example:## 102.54.94.97 rhino.acme.com # source server# 38.25.63.10 x.acme.com # x client host127.0.0.1 localhost---------------end of hosts file, don't put this line in the file!Save the file, rename it by removing the ".txt" so it's just hosts, write-protect the file by right-clicking and selecting Properties, tick the Read Only checkbox at the bottom of the General tab, then OK. Now try SI again.2. Netstat - it will show you what's connecting and where. Run it from a command prompt, right after starting your computer, while browsing the internet (unsafe and safe modes both, if it will work in safe mode). Right after you see your desktop, there should be nothing. To run a command prompt, go Start, Run, type "cmd" (minus quotes) and press Enter. You'll see a command window3. Firewall - maybe you have had one and just disabled it? In my experience, just disabling Norton's firewall is not sufficient for running on the network of one of my clients -- I have to completely uninstall it. Could this be the case with you -- disabled but still installed?Finally, a "repair reinstall" of XP would not (or should not, and hastn't in my experience of NT5x since Windows 2000) upset your software installations. But I would make an image before doing it, just in case. You can use Image for Windows Backup and Restore from Terabyte (http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/imagew.html), a shareware tool that will work for personal use. I've created images with it, but haven't tried to restore yet. The tool I rely on is Norton Ghost, works from DOS, reads and writes NTFS partitions, and is as reliable a form of disaster recovery as any, I believe they have a try-before-buy download available. It comes with Systemworks, which is available from OEM resellers for $20 or less and includes Norton Antivirus. If your Mcafee is a complete toolbox, it might have something, too. Hope this helps you, and please keep me posted on your progress. I have to go install Norton Antivirus on 7 computers now, then take care of an AS/400 client install, before I can read this thread again.Best Regards,--Steve

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Well, so far i've done the following:1. Did a safe boot with networking, and SI still does not work, but browsing the net DOES work.2. Looked in my System32/drivers/etc folder and there was NO hosts file at all. All that was there was that protocol file that Michael kindly sent me a few weeks back. 3. I tried a "self made" hosts file using the data you wrote, Steve, but that did not yield any results.4. I deleted the Servinfo.ini file, and then retried SI, without a positive result.I have uninstalled Norton ages ago after it didn't do anything but make my system slower. So I have no active firewall. I have McAfee installed now, but not as an active firewall. Out of interest, I will show you what my "new" servinfo.ini shows after i've tried accessing SI after intially deleting it:[DisplayParameters]All airports in list=0Show welcome screen=1Controllers display background color=15268072Controllers display font color=8404992Pilots display background color=14745599Pilots display font color=8404992RW servers display background color=16776440RW Servers display font color=0Show RW expanded=0Window Width=-1Window Height=746Window Left=-4Window Top=-4ATC1 columns=100,83,268,53,294,95,75,ATC2 columns=100,83,268,53,294,95,75,Pilots1 columns=28,70,241,283,283,80,Pilots2 columns=28,70,241,283,200,80,Country1 columns=100,83,272,53,305,95,75,Country2 columns=28,60,136,129,129,Country3 columns=28,60,136,129,129,FIR1 columns=100,83,272,53,305,95,75,FIR2 columns=28,60,228,249,249,125,50,Selected1 columns=100,83,268,53,294,95,75,Selected2 columns=28,60,241,283,283,80,Airport1 columns=100,83,272,53,305,95,75,Airport2 columns=28,60,179,215,Airport3 columns=28,60,160,183,50,Start-up window=1Start-up page=7Default Column Widths=1Show robot pilots=1Show prefiled=1[PingParameters]Color Range 1=250Color Range 2=500Ping Tries=5Packet Size=32Time Out=4000Unchecked=[CountryButtons]Button1=GreeceAirport1=LGAVFIR1=LGGGButton2=United KingdomAirport2=EGLLFIR2=EGTTButton3=ItalyAirport3=LIRFFIR3=LIRRButton4=GermanyAirport4=EDDTFIR4=EDBBButton5=NetherlandsAirport5=EHAMFIR5=EHAAButton6=NorwayAirport6=ENGMFIR6=ENOSButton7=USAAirport7=KJFKFIR7=KZNYButton8=CanadaAirport8=CYULFIR8=CZULButton9=AustraliaAirport9=YSSYFIR9=YBBBButton10=JapanAirport10=RJAAFIR10=RJTG[ConnectionParameters]Outdated Data Warning=10VATSIM Servers Locator Url=http://usa-s1.vatsim.net/dataIVAO Servers Locator Url=http://www.ivao.org/whazzup/Network00 Name=Network00 Url=Network01 Name=Network01 Url=Network02 Name=EUROBOOKNetwork02 Url=http://www.geardown.de/eubooking/Network03 Name=FPINetwork03 Url=http://fsd.flightproject.deNetwork04 Name=NVASNetwork04 Url=http://whazzup.nvas.net/whazzupNetwork05 Name=Cardinal VANetwork05 Url=http://208.180.216.134/whazzupNetwork06 Name=BAVNetwork06 Url=http://212.19.199.250:81/data/worldwideNetwork07 Name=IVAO SchedulingNetwork07 Url=http://www.ivao.org/scheduleNetwork08 Name=FPIBookNetwork08 Url=http://www.flightproject.net/fbs/Selected Network=0Use proxy=0Proxy address=Proxy port=80Proxy username=Save password=0Proxy password=TeamSpeak login=TeamSpeak password=VVTeamSpeak nickname=Custom Network Name=Custom Network Icon=2Autoload at start=0Default network=2Autoload when minimized=0Autoload when restored=0Autoload interval=3Autoload RW=0Autosave Prefix=autoAutosave Path=c:my downloadsfs downloadssi202[GaugeSettings]FS Path=Gauge output=0[NotificationSettings]FS messages display time=-15Popup windows=0FS messages=0Popup window top=-20Popup window left=20Notify with sound=1Selected ATC on menu=1Selected Pilots on menu=1Show ATC within range=1[MetarSettings]Wind=25Clouds Coverage=Bro#Ove#Clouds Height=1000Visibility=2000Rain=1Thunderstorm=1Snow=1Filter Wind=1Filter Ceiling=1Filter Visibility=1Filter Rain=0Filter Thunderstorm=1Filter Snow=0NOAA cycles=1NOAA refresh=15NOAA confirm=1Print names=1Print decoded=1[MapDisplay]EnableMap=1DefaultRegion=GreeceStartup=111111000FontName=VerdanaFontSize=7LandColor=14544622SeaColor=16763541FirColor=15790320UirColor=16119285[OtherParameters]ipaddr path=Version=202Selection Definitions=World Clock Views=111001World Clock Airports=LGAVEGLLLIRFEurobook Times=0Anything there show you what could be wrong? Can someone send me their hosts file, just so I can try a "proper" one and see if that helps?By the way, my registry points correctly to the System32/drivers/etc folder, i've said this a while ago. It looks exactly like Chuck's screenshot.Thanks for your help Michael and Steve. It really is appreciated!I will wait and see what a new "proper" hosts file does. After that I will plough through the remainder of the list..Update: I have now tried a "new" hosts file, and it didn't change anything..

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I'm sorry to say that I'm out of ideas Sam, but it doesn't look to be your ini file. I made a backup of my ini and copied and pasted yours into it's place. Running on your settings, my system had no problems fetching the data.Sorry

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