PeterKWell.. I sat down and updated the web pages..I really need a digital camera or a scanner to show all the remodeling but its all a hobbyI found somthing from a guy at work...really coolHttp://www4.passur.com/bos.html well I stood outside minutes laterto see if it really worked..Whats the count at now???? must be 900+pete

Peter990....Almost there!This is control...Wait for stage seperation dont throw that switch!

PeterK1060....Aero shell relased...Scram jets have cleared the frame..Centar engine now running...Going for orbit...Oh,,, the peroxide thrusters are working great!Hey got to post somthing...Thanks for taking a look....My cockpit does not even come close to alot of the hard work iv seen on the web with everything from simpleairplanes to f15s and jumbo jets...But we as a group are havingfun and learning alot about aviation...pete

Pete,Do you have a link for the Page????Attbi.com page is no longer there.Thanks.Sean W.

I agree. Some of us are only allowed to come here once and a while. LOL Now you have my interest! I want to see!!!!

Pete had changed his site and dropped most of the pictures of his sim. I believe he also changed ISPs. I haven't been able to locate the link. It would be nice if he would post the pictures again. His sim was a good example of how to do a great deal with not very much stuff.Mikewww.mikesflightdeck.com

PeterK Hey mike...Im still around...I spent the summer cutting up a 1964 mooney M20-C at the local airport during my lunches..And ill say it was not easy! its alot of plane to play with...I finally have the plane in the basement and have been putting itback together...just last week i was fired up and flying around...My daughter slamed the door shut and when she pulled the handle it broke off on the set screw...I had to fold the passenger seat forwardand punch through the carpeted side panel at the wing and reach up and open the door...next time (DONT SLAM THE DOOR SHUT!)works pretty good for what it is...it has fs2002 with 3 monitors and using the suncom f-15 flight system modified for mooney use...At&t Totally destroyed the web pages....im at comcast nowhttp://home.comcast.net/~fs-boneyardPictures of the mooney m20 are comming soon....still not a 747 but how many people have a mooney m20 in the basementpete

Hi Pete,Thanks for the update. I parked your URL on my simpit page. Maybe this way I won't lose it again.Glad to hear you're still simming. I look forward to seeing your basement Mooney pictures.Mikewww.mikesflightdeck.com

PeterK I have a different outlook on cockpit building....I see alotof big steel being made and it looks real good but i likeGA aviation and using a real airplane for a cockpit seems tobe my bug....I just though my first GA cockpit was lameand used the theory as a learning curve....The Mooney was offered to me and I grabbed it...There were cessna'spipers and beechcrafts to choose from but seeing the mooney cockpit mounts on the wing and was steel pipe with a aluminum skin the cockpit could be removed from the wing cut behind the rear window and cut down the middle...the pieces were 26 inches wide 50 inches high and 64 inches long...thats how it got in the basement....Cessna's and beechcrafts were all aluminum ribbed and were realmessy to cut up....The Mooney is tight just like sitting in a Cessna 150/152 and imin like a race car but once your in all you focus is on the 3 monitorsand flying...The mouse pad is on the nose wheel tire well and the keyboard is mounted overhead in the area where the air vents and speaker were located.. Im going to post some more pics of all the boneyard airframesyou can use as a GA cockpit maybe it will give some ideas at the webpage...get some film developed and scanned and the mooney willbe there too..Thanks mike for putting me at your web site... http://home.comcast.net/~fs-boneyardpete

Hi there Peter... just as a starting point, what sort of price does a reasonably intact GA cockpit fetch from a boneyard like that ?Richard

I've heard prices range from $4K - $8K for a GA pit. You GA guys have it good. Take a look at what a poor fighter pit junky like me has to dish out for one...http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...&category=14050:-eek-Leo

OK, OK - I'm going to need another USB adapter soon so you'll be another 0.1% of the way toward buying that.... If you think you can persuade the State Dept that Quebec isn't a potentially hostile destination (Would you like "Freedom Fries" with that? :-( )Rick

" Would you like "Freedom Fries" with that? :-(> "Pssst... I think they meant the other "French" when they said that... :-lolWell, you might be right about the State Dept blocking shipment into Canada, so I'm always on the lookout for scrapped pits here, but all we have are old Sea Kings...and they keep flying them no matter how many time they crash. :-roll-Leo

Actually it is not that bad to build your own from MDF or plywood. Sure, it's not a real plane, but it wont be a real plane no matter how hard you dream anyway :)When you do your own construction you can also design the sizes and such around your monitors and other hardware, so it is less of shoehorning everything inside that poor Cessna or Beechcraft shell.Especially with GA cockpits the sizes are not that important, whatever fits your hands and you can reach is OK, since there are so different planes and so many different instrument panels. A lot more freedom in adapting what works for you.www.airliners.net -> on the left side there's a link to "Flight Decks" special search, there are a lot of GA plane cockpit photos too that are a very good source of inspiration.Also see www.frasca.com for some simulator pics (although a bit low resolution) - those things are designed around LCD monitors etc, so they could be of inspiration as well. The smallest GA ones are interesting for a small home setup anyway, stick a big fresnel on the front with something like 17-19 inch screen behind it and you should have a pretty good setup.Two photos from their site:http://www.frasca.com/images/131ab.gifhttp://www.frasca.com/images/132panel.jpgNow, replace that small fresnel with a big one that fills the whole front part of the shell and you should have a pretty nice setup.It's possible to do a very convincing and serious personal flight training device with off-the-self computer hardware, some powertools and plywood :) Or, if you just want to shell out some money, you can buy many things ready-made: throttles, goflight etc. Others enjoy building stuff themselves, those pics give a good starting point as how to do a very simple shell that works great in making the immersion feeling. What matters is that you block out all the stuff on your home and just have an enclosed box with the sim stuff, and all the controls on right places. While flying you dont really concentrate on how the cockpit looks anyway, and all GA planes look so different anyway, that it is pretty irrelevant.Tuomas

PeterK The Plane i got was for trade..I had a 4Kw genrack generator whichseemed a good deal for a crashed mooney M20...I was at the rightplace at the right time...I was quoted $500 for various beechcraft bonanzas and pipermodels plus a cessna 150...all in various states of condition...you really have to look at each planes and decide...The Aztecs and twins you didnt even want to ask..those are the]$5,000 birdsMy mooney is the second to leave as a cockpit...I didnt meet theother simmer but saw his pictures at the boneyard office...If you want the phone number the place is on the web..Its Aircraft repairs unlimited at the New Bedford RegionalairportPete