As some FS Gauges are in XML. Is there a software which canplay them in another PC without FS but linked with WideFS ?Like an "external XML Player" ?Thank'sBOB

Not in an operational state. That I know of, anyway :(

interesting idea....if someone could read up on the XML gauge SDK and parse the XML files, using the pieces as the SDK describes, it shouldn't be too hard...from what I know, FS interprets the XML files for placement and movement properties. From my standpoint, it shouldn't be too hard and I'd kinda like to see what I could do with this, but I'm busy as it is with my 737 software.

>interesting idea....if someone could read up on the XML gauge>SDK and parse the XML files, using the pieces as the SDK>describes, it shouldn't be too hard...from what I know, FS>interprets the XML files for placement and movement>properties. From my standpoint, it shouldn't be too hard and>I'd kinda like to see what I could do with this, but I'm busy>as it is with my 737 software.Would be very very interesting to do this as a "GDI+" application to also overcome the "jumpy" movements of the FS gauges (no sub-pixel positioning of elements, very visible on the artificial horizons for example, that annoys a LOT when practicing instrument procedures or when you to trim the plane to level flight)XML itself is just a storage for the configuration format, but it would indeed be possible to re-implement the gauge SDK features as an individual program to run XML gauges. Interesting project idea.//Tuomas

XML is a very easy way to programm or modified existing gauges even for a non-programmer like me. I can rescale, modify the background pictures, create custom gauges with very few notions of programming. An external player permit to play the gauge alone in another PC what's important for a cokpit builder to separate master PC for visuals and a old PC for gauges.If someone will develop a new software ....Thank's and good luckBOB

Aren't there some new options out there for people to run copies of FS9 on multiple PCs? There was the original that I can't remember the name but always confused with WideFS. By the time I finally gave it a try, though, they had discontinued support for 2D panels which is exactly what I wanted it for. There's a new one that allows people to fly the same plane over IP. I would assume that could be used on a local network to drive the 2D panels. A standalone product that could run the XML gauges directly would be huge!David

I suppose you mean Wideview. but this programm just synchronise a client FS in slew mode with the FS server. Gauges are not linked.> There's a new one that allows people to fly the same plane over IPThat's may be a very good idea, like a copilot software.Does someone know the name of this software ?Thank'sBOB

i believe they're talking about www.gates.to program...for now, its an open beta, but will become shareware when they get a stable version...

>As some FS Gauges are in XML. Is there a software which can>play them in another PC without FS but linked with WideFS ?>Like an "external XML Player" ?>>Thank's>>BOB>>Bob.. Try Project Majenta. they have an awesome IFR Panel.. And they are working on a garmin G1000 like Panel too.It works with WideFS on a seperate computer.

>Bob.. Try Project Majenta. they have an awesome IFR Panel..>And they are working on a garmin G1000 like Panel too.>>It works with WideFS on a seperate computer.sure. But it does not answer the question. There are a ton of different kinds of gauges (and you can do your own too, for information display or whatever, via XML) - it's more flexible than Magenta which is a fixed set of stuff, with a fixed set of bitmaps.Having a possibility to use XML gauges that use aircraft type -specific background bitmaps etc is a nice way to add to the "feel" of the plane, even if you have the exact same "physical" hole-mask panel over the monitor.. It looks different since the gauges look different.Of course XML gauges are not very heavy on fps, and you can run them just fine on a PCI videocard on the same PC as the main display (or, well, can one run WideView with just slave displays, while the main PC is the one displaying the gauges?//Tuomas

HI TuomasTo quote you..."Of course XML gauges are not very heavy on fps, and you can run them just fine on a PCI videocard on the same PC as the main display (or, well, can one run WideView with just slave displays, while the main PC is the one displaying the gauges?"I find that running two extra pci cards for the instruments on PIC767 or LDS767 does have significant impact on frame rates.So,I am very interested in your question re: the use of Wideview...displaying gauges on the main pc and scenery on the slaves....I would be very interested to know if this is possible and the likely frame rate impact?If there is anyone out there who can answer this I would much appreciate it!

Ian,My understanding of Wideview is that it used to allow the syncing of 2D panels but the current version does not because the author didn't think that was an important feature. Perhaps it would be possible to get an older versionDavid

>Ian,>My understanding of Wideview is that it used to allow the>syncing of 2D panels but the current version does not because>the author didn't think that was an important feature. Perhaps>it would be possible to get an older version>DavidLDS does not use XML gauges. And it's pretty heavy on FPS nevertheless. And I would guess it has a lot of custom code that needs to be on the same machine anyway, even if regular gauges worked accross networked machines. Unless LDS has some "run accross network" mode of its own.I have no experience of wideview, but would it be possible to run a "master" FS wideview server without a 3D view at all, and have *all* the outside views be slaves? Then you would run the gauges on the master machine..? That way gauges would work "accross the network" - you would just do it the "other way around" - put the outside visual to remote machines and have the gauges locally. Anyone know if this would work?//Tuomas

put the outside visual to remote machines and have the gauges locally. Anyone know if this would work?Thats works--you will still have to run mimimazed scenery in some small window without bels and whistles on your server machine along with the gauges

Thanks to all for the info.I guess you still have to run weather on the server?....ie you can't have Activesky just update the main scenery client?Does anyone know the FPS impact of Wideview? I would be interested to try running my gauges on the server with the minimised scenery as Yoss indicated, as I only want one front scenery view (for the moment anyway;-) ).