This is what my dictionary has to say about the phrase / name:-fly-by-night PRONUNCIATION: flb-nt ADJECTIVE: 1. Informal Unreliable or unscrupulous, especially with regard to business dealings:

>>Isnt that what home cockpit building is all about tho,>building it yourself? Failing, trying again and then the cry>from the workshop "YOU BLOODY BEAUDY !! IT WORKS" (said with>an ozzy accent!)>You are absolutely right but I could also add that I sound more like Ozzie Osbourne when it does not go right and I identify one of my stupid mistake!!!HAPPY NEW YEAR to you all.Simon Webbaka The PorcupineVery slowely putting together a generic(ish) twin desktop unit.

:-)It's wonderful to see you people philosophize about our name and business methods involved.A happy new year to all of you, especially to our customers!Best regards,Phillip

I will see if I still have the link to the website. I have the file on my HDD, but am not sure if I can post it. Found it..........http://www.rvdijk.nl/cockpit.htmAbout half way down the page there is the MJOY8 and the MJOY16

>You are absolutely right but I could also add that I sound>more like Ozzie Osbourne when it does not go right and I>identify one of my stupid mistake!!!Hahahahaha. Man that made me laugh!

Thanks, will give it a try. Havn't made a double sided board yet, this one will be the first.

Tried to reach Mindaugaus very often but no results ...I changed the layout with all the connectors on one board ... and made a 'doublelayer'of it ... Robwww.rvdijk.nl/download/PCB_RVD_MEGA.LAY

>> At last, you want to earn some bucks. Trust me, this is a>good>> price. Don't believe it? Go and try to build the MJoy>project>> (count your hours and failed attempts).>>Well. It's up to you to set the price of course. But you can>also buy the MJoy *assembled* for 33 euros.>>Sorry. It's great to have new products show up in the home>cockpit and personal flight simulator scene, but you could try>a bit harder. Make something cool, useful and reasonably>priced, and we'll be happy to buy. But please, we are not>idiots. Sorry.>>http://tigert.com/aviation/vatsim/cockpit-stuff/hmm.jpg>>The two products do look quite comparable, don't you think?>>//Tuomas>Tuomas,Do you know where I can find the manual for that product?I can't get it from here http://mindaugas.com/projects/MJoy16/C1/for some reason, it says the document is not there.Manny

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