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Cessna421 or SenecaV?

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OK!I have been given $25 by my wife to invest in one (and only one, as she demanded!) shareware aircraft until FS2004 is available.Which should I "invest" in: the Flight1 C-421, or the new FSD Seneca V?Both look really good to me in pictures.Please help.

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well i have both but i like the senecaV i think its a lot easyer to fly then the cessna 421... the 421 has lots to do when your flying though.. they are both very nice models but my prefrance is for the seneca V..:-)

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Depends on whats important for you. They are both good aircraft. I don't have the 421, but have the Seneca along with several others. I hear that the Cessna is more graphic intensive, which might be a consideration depending on your system. I love the Seneca, but am a little dissapointed because I did expect more from the hype and what others said, but it is still a fine aircraft. Great flight model, very smooth. Hope this helpsMichael http://www.geocities.com/res052cd/cmhbanner.gif

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Hi,I have both and I think it depends on your personal preference which one too choose. I can't comment on the flight models since I'm not a real pilot, but they both fly very nice.Personally I like the cockpit of the C421 a bit better, the graphics are just a tiny bit more real. Also the C421 has a Garmin530 look-alike GPS.As aircraft I like the Seneca better, just a matter of personal preference.My 2 cents,Egbert

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I have both and like the 421C better. I'm sure you'll be happy with either plane, but if visibility is an issue, get the 421. And if you make more than very short flights the 421 gets you there at a respectable speed while the Seneca is suprisingly slow.

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I just bought the Seneca V, and have flown the C421 on a friends computer. Both are visually stuning, but at $18.50, the Seneca is a MUCH better value (IMO). Also, the team at FSD is constantly updating their products to reflect users requests. Latest news is the possibility of 'decoupling' the default FS2002 GPS from the radio stack and adding a functional CB panel. Check out some of the latest posts at the FSD forum. I admit I have a tough time purchasing any payware aircraft, but once you get above $20.00, I bail, no matter how good it is! Funny, if Flight1 had priced the C421 more reasonably (below $20.00), I'd have bought it (and I bet there are many more out there like me). As for $35.00 for a Piper Meridian - FORGET IT!!! Come on folks - it's ONE add-on plane (and I don't care how good it is).DavePS; Use the extra cash to buy a nice pack O' beer.PPS; The Seneca's a bit friendlier on FPS.

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Hi, it was this lacking functionality of the flight director and, more importantly, FSD

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I agree. Landing view is a big selling point for me. Not to mention complete lack of functionality of FSD's Flight Director (as Tord mentioned above) - hard to grasp but after so many months (years) FSD is still incapable of delivering this vital piece of avionics. Michael J.

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The 421 FOR SURE!!!!Much better performance, appearance, flyability... You name it, the 421 is 100Times better than the Seneca V.

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Dave brings up a couple of excellent points. The Seneca does have a fantastic bang for the buck. And FSD is already talking about fixes and enhancements coming soon. See this thread:http://www.flightsimnetwork.com/dcforum/DC...ID10/31474.htmlSo if value is your concern, the Seneca wins hands-down. Just be willing to sacrifice some visibility (not too much) and speed (a lot).Cheers.

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100X better???? That's pretty impressive. Must not have been the C421 I've seen. ;-)Dave

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I don't have the Seneca, but I have to say that I couldn't be happier with my 421C purchase. I like the fact that it falls into the GA niche, yet can cruise in the flight levels.... It's a great aircraft....

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Must not have been the C421 I've seenMaybe you better check again ;-)

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I prefer the 421 simply because it gives you more flexibility for setting up the instrument subpanels. It's the plane I used to design my home cockpit, so I'm biased. I like being able to move the engine instruments and radios to a second monitor. The Seneca has them forever attached to the main 2D panel. Eventually I'll figure out how to use FS Panel Studio and make the panels the way I want them. Also, at some point the FSGarmin units will replace the 530 in the C421 and the radio stack in the Seneca. Then we will be getting somewhere! Still, the Seneca is dirt cheap in my book, so I wouldn't hesitate to get both.David

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IMHO, The C421 is a better one VC-wise. The VC in the Seneca is good, but kinda squared... I dunno. Ir hasn't grown on me. If you told me I have to give one back for a refund, I'd give back the Seneca... Even tho it's cheaper, the 421 is a crisper plane. Again, just my opinion. Any of the 2 is great tho. :)Cheers,http://www.simubuild.com/gfx/banner/SBB_Pimentel.jpgAA RULES!!! :)Download my semi-photoreal AA 757!:http://ftp.avsim.com/library/sendfile.php?DownloadID=16882Aerolineas Argentinas A330-200 NOW AVAILABLE!!http://www.thevivcorp.com/~fyarepaints/MyR.../posky332ar.zipChrome AA 767 NOW AVAILABLE!!http://www.thevivcorp.com/~fyarepaints/MyR...osky767aaV1.zipDominicana de Aviacion 727-53C NOW AVAILABLE!!http://www.thevivcorp.com/~fyarepaints/MyRepaints/dom722.zip______________________________"Whenever you find yourself in the side of the majority it's time to pause and reflect" - Mark Twain

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Bob, I have both and am a bit partial to the Seneca because I was fortunate to be a Beta tester for her. If you really can only have one then you will have to ultimately decide but you should go here:http://www.simforums.com/forums/display_fo...s.asp?ForumID=2To read feedback from C421 customers.Then go here:http://www.fsd-international.com/To read feedback from Seneca customers.Like I said before only you can make the decision. Hope this helps you make an informed decision. Either way you are in for a lot of fun and probably learning along the way. Good Luck!http://www.ktone.org/images/FSD_ken.jpg

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You should persuade your wife and get both. Another 16 bucks you get both. What is $16?! :)I have both and they are the best you can get out there. Each one has its own characteristic and the C421 serves my needs better. But, despite the SV has been released 3 days ago, it already has new features to be added in the near future. Really cool features! ;)

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>You should persuade your wife and get both. Or better yet divorce ! I would have a real problem with a wife that I had to clear with every $25 I wanted to spend on a flight sim. *:-* Michael J.

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I LOVE the 421, but can't fly it much as the frame rates are painful on my machine... sometimes dropping below 5 fps on approach... making it unflyable. I have a 1.0G P3. That's a lot of money for a "maybe" so unless you are faster than that I wouldn't bother. Too bad I can't sell mine. :)But other than that it is incredible!Eddie

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