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Just out of curiosity, what is the general consensus in the simming community regarding "drinking and simming"? For those of legal age, are you adamant about "eight hours from bottle to throttle" or do you allow yourself the occasional brew (or wine, or hardball, or whatever) while relaxing watching your AI move about or even taking to the skies? On the one hand, I would expect the purists to proclaim that alcohol has no place around any airplane - be it a PC simulator or the real McCoy. On the other, one could argue that this is only a hobby and since it is a form of relaxation then by all means sip away. So do you drink and sim? Has this ever caused you to have a lapse in judgment? Do the professional pilots in the crowd feel any responsibility to behave as you would flying the line? Or is this just a game? Just curious...

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"what is the general consensus in the simming community regarding "drinking and simming"? This IS serious right?What about a survey to see how many "virtual" pilots announce that "We shall shortly be commencing our (virtual) descent into (virtual) KLAX in our (virtual) B737" .... "Please ensure that your (virtual) tray tables are stowed away and your (virtual) seat belts are fastened". And all this while the wife is in the other room and cannot hear you!I'm sorry and do not wish to appear rude, but aren't the "surveys" that are starting to appear in this forum of late just starting to go downhill more and more?I LOVE simming and the more realistic the better. However, there are real life pointers as to just where the the line between imagined illusion / fantasy and real life reality start and end. IMHO s/he that will not drink because s/he is simming needs REAL help! FAST!Anyhow, in answer to your question I answer as follows:-Drinking problem? No Sir!I drink, I fall over ...... No problem! (Even in my "virtual" cockpit!) Dave B(trying desperately to stop my wife laughing at what this hobby is becoming)

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I usually fly after work. I usually have a couple beers (Shiner Bock) after work. You do the math.I've never had any problems because a couple beers do not impair my virtual judgement that much. However, I have had more than a couple and flown virtually. On one occasion, I fell asleep at the controls. Fortunately, I awoke before I ran out of fuel, but overran my destination by a couple hundred miles. No harm, no foul!

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ROFL :DWhat an experience! Did you manage to find an alternate? Or did you just quit the sim?To answer the poll... Yes, I occasionally do have a couple of beers while flying. As the above poster I once in a blue moon had too much and it did impair my judgement when trying to land. Well rather slow the brain down... ;-) But I never, ever fell asleep at the controls. Not yet anyway...I mean this is the beauty of simulators right? You can allow yourself to do these kind of things. Regards

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I sympathise with Dave B's post.Yes, I wouldn't think twice about having a few drinks while I sit at my PC. I'm at home and I'm relaxing!!On the other hand, of course, I could hire a full complement of airline staff and have a copilot and a set of cabin crew in my front room to serve my g/f while 'we' fly someplace. She'll not be allowed to pop out to the shops... I mean... that would be suicide! That's a fall of over 15000ft! I like to tape all my windows up and pressurize the house too. Erm./.. did I just call my Plane a house? Sorry... I must be going mad.Hells bells.... I just saw a car drive past... I must be seeing things... how could a car get up here. Dear me, I must be going mad.Cheers, chin chin, bottoms-up, salutSi ;)

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Are you kidding? If I've had a few beers while watching a hockey game the first thing I do is head for the sim and try the most difficult instrument approach I can think of (usually KASE for me). It's a sobering experience (pun intended) to see how much your judgement (or at least mine)can be affected. David

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Drink and sim ------- yes. Lapse in sim and forum reply judgment --while under the "influence"----yes!Drink and fly ------- never!Yes,...... this is a hobby, relaxation, entertainment, or a good training aid. But it's definately NOT a real airplane; and I do know the difference! :)L.Adamson

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L.Adam..........Yeah, watch out, Big Brother is listening. Wait and see, soon there will be a program, (secretly hidden within another program), which will do a 'ramp check' on us while simming! LOLOLKnowing some of the individuals on this fourm . . . they will be crying for Microsoft to pull our 'Virtual Tickets', for a violation.Drink? Of course I drink while simming. This is a computer, for God's sake -- not a real aircaft -- no matter how 'real as it gets' gets! Did I ever drink when I flew? Only when I was a passenger and not in control of the aircraft, and then usually enough for me to quit worrying about the pilot up front . . . (we pilots tend to be control freaks, ya know).Although, the way some of the AI aircraft fly in this thing, I'm sure some of the pilots in those planes are a wee bit tipsy . . .Clayton T. Dopke (Clay)Major, USAF (retired)"Drac"B52Drivr@aol.com

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In light of some captains of major US air carriers being recently relieved of duty for pre-flight swillage, I think one should have a few (Alexander Keiths India Pale Ale - up here in Canada) to make it "As Real As It Gets". I've had a number of flights under the influence.*:-* Never killed anyone yet but it can certainly be hard on the landing gear!:-beerchug Adam

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I've also been known to sim with a bad head cold, while under the influence of Nyquil, and with a two-year old underfoot. As for being a member of the "virtual mile-high club", fat chance the wife would ever get that close to my computer! :-lolDavidI almost hate to think where this thread is headed now!!

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LOL, I do most of my flying Friday and Saturday nights! We fly online and can always tell when each other has surpased the "6th" beer on landings ;-)))

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I usually limit it to one brew if I'm flyin' - this is the result of an experience where I had one too many I struggled to stay awake through the final descent, with the cross winds gusting up to 25kts, there was no way I could line up I kept on drifting over the terminal bldgs, so finally I just quit. Eventhough this is not a real plane I have a stake in not crashing, I only fly point to point meaning my flights always originate from the last place I landed, and if I crash (and it's my fault) I have to refly the entire flight. With a wife and 1.5 kids I just don't have time to redo flights.

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I usually limit it to one brew if I'm flyin' - this is the result of an experience where I had one too many I struggled to stay awake through the final descent, with the cross winds gusting up to 25kts, there was no way I could line up I kept on drifting over the terminal bldgs, so finally I just quitAll it takes is a little practice man! Go get yourself a 12-pack, the more you drink the easier it is to stay awake ;-)one beer just puts me to sleep, 12 beers makes it SOOOOOO REEAAALLLLLLL ;-)

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I couldn't agree with you more. I'm actually surprised that there hasn't been a single post yet claiming to be a "dry" simmer. With the degree to which many people take this hobby, I would have expected to read something different. It's refreshing to see that people are keeping perspective and enjoying there time compared how serious many people are about FS. Anyone tried Ciclon yet (and I don't mean the energy drink)?

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You don't need your wife - just a virtual flight attendant, virtual copiliot (the one from the new 727 VC?), or virtual girlfriend from some foreign destination... :-wink2

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OH MAN!! THIS IS SO FUNNY TO READ: ROFL!!I JUST THOUGHT, YOU ALL COULD GO TO WORK FOR AMERICA WEST!!!HAHAHAAHHAA, OH MAN Im probably going to get into trouble for thisciao!Brian S

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Adam...Did you have to mention Alexander Keiths India? I've missed it since I left Canada after my last visit in September. Unfortunately I have to stick to European beer here in Sweden ;-):-beerchug

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