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I am the one that was posting on the flightsim forums. Unfortunatly my problem is persisting. It has happened twince in a row at Newark. The winds were just 001@58. It is starting to get frustrating. Any help is appreciated.Brian

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Hey Brian,I had this happen last night and it has happened a couple times before that, but not every time (Even happened with 2002 a few times). I don't have a answer for you on why it happens, but you can in the new FSUPIC (pay version) clear all the weather then refresh your active sky and that seems to fix it. Hope this helps. :)

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Thanks for the help. That worked, but this high wind thing has happened to me 3 flights in a row and I am not a fan of having to pause the sim on approach just to get decent winds.Any help on a permanent solution would be great.Brian

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Hi Brian,Are you using destination force? Your destination station ID should be entered and the force box checked to ensure that your approach and landing winds are set correctly. Just want to confirm you are doing this?If so, obviously this won't help so please send me a screenshot of your main and status screens along with your wxre.ini when this happens and I'll take an in-depth look.. thanks!-Damian

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I have my destination box checked and this has happened. Like I said, it does not happen all the time, and only has happened twice in the two or so weeks I have had FS2004.If and when it happens again, I'll send you over what you requested.I can't wait for 2.0 :)

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Brian,I just posted again at Flightsim.com, I was without power for 33 hours! Now that you can post here, let's just keep this thread going so I don't have to keep jumping sites! I hope we can get you running correctly.Hope this helps,JimActiveSky Support

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Jim,I have seen this occassionally in FS2004.What happens is that the Winds Aloft Remain at a constant Setting, despite them updating in ActiveSky. You get the Winds Aloft updates scrolling across the screen, but no actual updates.Hope this helps.

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Mark,Thanks, but I need some help here. Are you saying that AS updates, but the new data does not display correctly in FS? If "yes" then here are some things to look at for me:1. The change is not instant. It takes a bit of time for AS to communicate with FS. Then FS04 takes more time than 02 to change data. It's MS's attempt to smooth the weather changes. Remember that in 02 we did this with FSUIPC. Also, MS built in some variability into the processes.2. For wind directions, AS reports TRUE directions, but FS04 reports MAGNETIC directions.If you are still experiencing major errors, please post some actual data and I can look into this.If I have your situation screwed up, please straighten me out!!Hope this helps,JimActiveSky Support

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Jim,ActiveSky updated but FS did not.Will retry and post results.

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Hi All,Ok, if you all remember, FS2002 did this occasionally. Basically, for some reason, all winds are ignored from the actual weather set area in FS.. So even though wxRE is setting the wind correctly, and it is even going into FS correctly, FS is refusing to take the new values and is instead locking the winds. This is known as the "winds cache" problem documented in FSUIPC documentation.FS2004 now seems to be doing the same thing with a bit more frequency. Perhaps with everyone's help we can figure out how to get around this. Some reported that using the clear wx command in FSUIPC fixes it. Is this true for everyone? For those experiencing this with regularity, what is your dynamic setting in FS2004? Any other information will help. Unfortunately I have never once experienced this problem so it is impossible to test fixes on my end.... but perhaps with the feedback of others we can come up with some kind of FS trickery via wxRE code to rid the problem (i.e. force a clear weather/reset to reported if a 'stuck' situation is detected?)... Thanks all...-Damian

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Damian,Just tried things out again and encountered the same problem.Winds aloft seemed stuck and required the fsuipc clear weather option to refresh. This happened at every winds aloft update in the descent.I have the following options enabled:FS2004 Dynamic Weather OFF as recommended by FSUIPC.Update Winds Aloft on New Station ON.When using the FSUIPC clear weather setting you can get quite an abrupt winds change at times.Hope this helps.Mark

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Thanks for the info Mark,Can you try with Update Aloft on New Station OFF ? Curious if this is related to that option or not...-Damian[table border=0" cellspacing="30" cellpadding="0][tr][td align = "left"]Damian ClarkHiFi Simulation SoftwareDeveloper of ActiveSkyThe next-generation weather environment simulation for FS2002!http://hifi.avsim.net/activesky[/td][td]http://hifi.avsim.net/activesky/images/wxrebeta.jpg][/td][/tr][/table://http://hifi.avsim.net/activesky/ima...[/tr][/table

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I inadvertantly forgot to 'Get' destination weather and 'Force'. As I descended, the wind tracked as per altitude, as it should. When I 'Got' and 'Forced' everything was OK.Previously, I've 'Got' and 'Forced' shortly after takeoff and experienced the wind problem.HTH-- Alan White

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I think that's a red herring. I've just descended into an airport without 'Getting' it and had to 'Clear' using FSUIPC to set surface wind.-- Alan White

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Alan,Did you "Force"?Hope this helps,JimActiveSky Support

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In the second case, the airport was too small to appear in the wxRE database so there was nothing to 'Force' to.The winds aloft were not tracking down as I descended and I eventually cleared the weather, using the switch in FSUIPC, re-enabled weather, using the same switch, and all came good.Could it be that there's a problem in FSUIPC not passing on the weather to FS correctly?-- Alan White

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A bit more info and, perhaps, clarification.Winds track when ascending.Winds do not track when descending although there are signs that an attempt is made, i.e. one degree change in direction/one knot change in speed.The wxRE 'Status' shows correct winds.Using the FSUIPC 'Clear' switch, resets the weather and wxRE then applies the local conditions. However, when below the lowest level, the local wind sometimes isn't applied and remains at 0 knots. wxRE status shows correct wind.It looks to me as though there's a problem between wxRE and FSUIPC or between FSUIPC and FS.HTH-- Alan White.

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Alan,Thanks for the info..Still unable to duplicate... If winds are changing 1deg/knot per sec then that is how you have FSUIPC wind smoothing set (this is configurable)... you can disable wind smoothing to see instant wind changes as set by wxRE... Otherwise you must wait for the smoothing to finish.If you thus clear via FSUIPC it will reset its smoothing counter and go directly to the value next entered by wxRE.. maybe this is what is going on?Please e-mail me directly @ damianc@hifisim.com - thanks for your help!-Damian

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I don't have the registered version of FSUIPC, and this is happening to me, so this can't be the root of the problem unless the unregistered version does smoothing on it's own in which case I would be screwed!!:(By the way, this is now happening on every flight of mine. Brian

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Hi Guys, Please e-mail me at damianc@hifisim.com for continued troubleshooting of this issue...Thanks!-Damian[table border=0" cellspacing="30" cellpadding="0][tr][td align = "left"]Damian ClarkHiFi Simulation SoftwareDeveloper of ActiveSkyThe next-generation weather environment simulation for FS2002!http://hifi.avsim.net/activesky[/td][td]http://hifi.avsim.net/activesky/images/wxrebeta.jpg][/td][/tr][/table://http://hifi.avsim.net/activesky/ima...[/tr][/table

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