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Thanks Jim. I have the old version of the clouds (issued December 2003?). They give much better performance over the MS default. The new set came out this month but I hadn't noticed any comments as to how much better they were.

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I found that performance went through the floor with the new ones even with an AMD3400 processor, but perhaps this is because I only have a nvidia 4800SE vid card - so I am back to the old ones.Bruce

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