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Winds not changing in AS6.5?

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Set up a flight early this morning.Printed the reports.Set up the same flight at noon (KDTW)today. My FSbuild plan indicated the same exact as this mornings. So I checked the AS6.5 reports.The reports (all stations/upper levels etc.)from noon today are the "exact" same as this mornings flight.The snapshot date and time changes correctly with Wx updates.


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Vaughan Martell - KDTW

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Jim,After the morning flight I suspected a problem because I was on the ground for 1.5 hours and the FSbuild plan AS6.5 (Wx) never changed.So, to test that FSbuild was pulling the correct snapshot I opened the snapshot, foung Kcvg station (that was one waypoint in the flight plan) and changed the wind to 300 degrees 300 kts .. saved the file and built the same plan again .. yep, it was loading the right snapshot ... added much fule and time to the plan. FSbuild also had 300/300 in the route report.I noted the date and time on the snapshot txt file ... It must be PST because it was 3 hours behind KDTW time.I shout down the computer ... got a few hours sleep.PC on and loaded Wx.... same "old" AS6.5 Wx but it had an new date and time.I had use AVSIM WxUnchecked it, saved.Download / refreshed Wx ... same problemSo, I had rebuilt with what was supposed to be AS afternoon Wx.


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Vaughan Martell - KDTW

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Jim, This was the same flight as in the morning .. the one where nothing changed. Just so you can see the stations in question. Fsbuild Flight PlanFLT REL IFR UPS1944 KDTW-4R/KSDF-35L MACH 80 A/C B767-300 Level-D FUEL TIME CORR TOGWT LDGWT AVG W/CTAXI 003420 0019 . . . . 321293 309946 P002DEST KSDF 011347 0043 . . . . ELEV. 501 FTRESV 009176 0045 . . . .ALTN 003425 0016 . . . . ALTN KBNA DIST 130 HOLD 009176 0045 . . . .EXTRA 000500 0002 . . . . ZFW 287668 PAYLOAD 090668TTL AT TO 033625 0231 . . . . DIST 0273REQD 037045 0250 . . . . ETD CLB BIAS 0.0% CRZ BIAS 2.4% DSC BIAS 0.0%DEP BIAS 0 min 0 dist 0 fuel, ARR BIAS 0 min 1200 fuelKDTW ROD1.ROD CVG.RDSTN1 KSDF/0043 M/H FL WIND ATCTO NM AWY M/C TAS G/S ZT ACTME STA/CODE ACBO ABO REM AREM N4140.3/W8320.4 186 CLB 224006 CLE SCORR 032 ROD1 185 332 336 00/06 00/06 KDTW/ 0042/... 0293/... N4131.5/W8320.0 189 CLB 296030 CLE CHOOT 008 ROD1 185 406 419 00/01 00/07 K24G/ 0047/... 0289/... N4123.6/W8325.9 213 CLB 297036 CLE TOC 009 ROD1 209 419 421 00/01 00/09 KTDZ/ 0052/... 0284/... N4017.2/W8402.5 213 260 297036 IND ROD 117.50 070 ROD1 209 480 483 00/08 00/17 KTDZ/ 0069/... 0266/... N3906.6/W8439.4 210 260 305028 IND TOD 075 DCT 206 479 484 00/09 00/27 KDAY/ 0088/... 0247/... N3900.9/W8442.2 212 DSC 306026 IND (( KCVG wind is 306 at 26) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>CVG 117.30 006 DCT 208 388 390 00/00 00/28 KCVG/ 0089/... 0246/...N3845.7/W8456.8 224 DSC 306026 IND ...................................................................WARSA 018 RDSTN1 221 380 380 00/02 00/30 KCVG/ 0091/... 0244/... N3836.9/W8505.4 227 180 313024 IND NERVE 011 RDSTN1 223 300 302 00/02 00/33 KCVG/ 0093/... 0243/... N3823.3/W8518.3 226 DSC 313023 IND RDSTN 016 RDSTN1 222 300 301 00/03 00/36 KFFT/ 0095/... 0240/... N3814.2/W8527.0 225 DSC 350017 IND ZOPOM 011 RDSTN1 222 250 261 00/02 00/38 KLOU/ 0097/... 0238/... N3806.2/W8534.6 218 50 220011 IND IIU 114.80 009 RDSTN1 218 210 200 00/02 00/41 KLOU/ 0099/... 0236/... N3810.4/W8544.1 298 DSC 220011 IND KSDF 008 RDSTN1 301 210 208 00/02 00/43 KLOU/ 0113/... 0222/...


Best Regards,

Vaughan Martell - KDTW

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Forget to mention:I am using Force Secondary Server so the snapshot should always get updated. You mentioned on one of my previous post to do that.


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Vaughan Martell - KDTW

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The plan is from the noon flight. It was exactly the same as the mornings plan.As far as I can tell the snapshot date and timy (file timestamp)changes with every download (once an hour or so, plus I refreshed AS) but the winds remain the same for erver checkpoint in the FSbuild plan and both the morning and afternoon AS6.5 reports I printed were exactly the same.There should have been changes in the AS6.5 reports.


Best Regards,

Vaughan Martell - KDTW

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I did another flight this evening. KDTW-KSDFThe departure AS6.5 Snapshot was 7-20-07 at 2:54pm (PST?)I processed my route in AS6.5 and printed the plan and navlog reports.I did a build in FSbuild .. printed it.The arrival snapshot was 5:34pm (PST?)When I arrived at the gate KSDF I processed the same original flight plan in AS6.5 again .. printed the reports.I did the FSbuild plan again and printed it.All of the reports were the same. No changes times, speeds, winds.There should have been some changes in wind direction/speed in the AS6.5 reports? Right?All of the reports should not be identical.


Best Regards,

Vaughan Martell - KDTW

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Hi,What I would like you to do is generate 2 snap shot files a few hours apart and send them to me as attachments at jim@hifisim.com. I would like to take a look to see what is going on within these files. I know it may be tomorrow until you can do this.Also include the FS04 plan.Thanks,Jimhttp://www.hifisim.com/banners/hifi-community-sigbanner.jpghttp://www.hifisim.com/

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OK,Got the snapshots and I will send them in a few minutes.One saved from last night and one from this morning.This morning I started AS6.5 and used FSbuild to do the same plan as yesterday. Just to do a quick check.Still had the same problem: Flight plans are identical.The ATIS information in the snapshots is changing but the upper level winds are not ... that is the problem.


Best Regards,

Vaughan Martell - KDTW

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Just checking to see if you found the problem with upper level winds not updating in AS6.5?For the past 30 hours I have built the same flight plan and no change in the winds at flight levels during that time.I took snapshots just in case they are needed.I am sure you could check a few at your end though.How often are the upper level winds downloaded from you source .. like every 6, 12 or 24 hours?


Best Regards,

Vaughan Martell - KDTW

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Jim, ** I did see one update in 3 days.For 7-20-07, no upper level wind updates all day. ** On 7-21-07 I seen one update. This is where, maybe, he thought it was fixed. The snapshot I was looking at was 1:08 PST.Then, no updates after that. I stopped tracking it on 7-22-07 at 9:05 EST after my gate arrival KDTW-KJFK.How often are the upper level winds, when everything is working properly, downloaded from you source .. like every 6, 12 or 24 hours?


Best Regards,

Vaughan Martell - KDTW

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Hi everyone,Normally the update should occur between every 4-8 hours depending on a few factors.In a review of the recent logs it has been found delays up to 48 hours have been occuring the past few weeks, at random times. We are actively investigating and working to get this updated appropriately every 4-8 hours every time.FWIW for realistic random changes between updates we recommend using the winds variability and drift features.Best,


Damian Clark
HiFi  Simulation Technologies

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