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Is the C47 version still going to happen?

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Guest ogeva

Is the C47 version still going to happen? I mean te version with cargo doors and passenger seats plus a 'real' cargo version?I have a few repaints in line for that...But if they are not in the works I will work with what we have now...Thanks!

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Certainly !In fact i have just uploaded a finished model for checkout.Expect it to be available as a Christmas present any day now. Apart from the pax/cargo doors and pax seats it features many upgrades to the base model. This particular model is a photoreal rendition of Danish OY-BPB a.o. sporting a modern set of antenna's but the same upgraded model will also be available with vintage antenna's, pax or bucket seats to serve as a base C-47 for repainting. New wing texture mapping has been arranged for easy D-Day striping.Here's a truckload of preview screenies of the just finished OY-BPB model. Checkout new engine textures and reworked prop axes : http://www.fssupport.com/maam_sim/civilDC-3s/OYBPB/bpb10.jpghttp://www.fssupport.com/maam_sim/civilDC-3s/OYBPB/bpb11.jpghttp://www.fssupport.com/maam_sim/civilDC-3s/OYBPB/bpb12.jpghttp://www.fssupport.com/maam_sim/civilDC-3s/OYBPB/bpb19.jpghttp://www.fssupport.com/maam_sim/civilDC-3s/OYBPB/bpb24.jpghttp://www.fssupport.com/maam_sim/civilDC-3s/OYBPB/bpb21.jpghttp://www.fssupport.com/maam_sim/civilDC-3s/OYBPB/bpb28.jpghttp://www.fssupport.com/maam_sim/civilDC-3s/OYBPB/bpb29.jpghttp://www.fssupport.com/maam_sim/civilDC-3s/OYBPB/bpb18.jpghttp://www.fssupport.com/maam_sim/civilDC-3s/OYBPB/bpb26.jpghttp://www.fssupport.com/maam_sim/civilDC-3s/OYBPB/bpb27.jpghttp://www.fssupport.com/maam_sim/civilDC-3s/OYBPB/bpb25.jpghttp://www.fssupport.com/maam_sim/civilDC-3s/OYBPB/bpb20.jpgETA : Pretty soon now ! :-cool Jan

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Guest kimdahl

Hi JanI have a few important details about the OY-BPB that I would like to discuss with you in a more private forum, but my mail is constantly being returned from your mail server! Help...Best regards

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Hi Kim,Are you sending attachments as well? If so size might be too big, cut them up in two seperate mails if possible. Was wondering why i didn't hear from you.. (-: Mind you, we'd like to release BPB as a XMas present so any major rework will not be possible at this time.Hope to hear from you soon.Jan

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Hi Jan,I have tried to send the mail both with and without attachments, but I keep getting this error message: ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- (reason: 551 Mail from your IP is currently blocked based on RBL listing) ----- Transcript of session follows -----... while talking to smtp.chello.nl.:>>> DATA<<< 551 Mail from your IP is currently blocked based on RBL listing550 5.1.1 ... User unknown<<< 503 No recipients specifiedAnd that's it, no communication... I can fully understand that there isn't time to make major adjustments, but I would like you to consider the registration letters under the left wing which seem to have been forgotten:http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/100809.jpgBest regardsKim

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Hey Kim,Good ! Was just testing your eagle eye ! :( Great catch, Kim, indeed forgot about that. Will be fixed surely.Don't know why your mail is being blocked, that's very annoying ! Did get reply from Mathias,happy he's finally got his photoreal BPB. Hope you're happy as well with BPB and i can concentrate on Tico Belle. Still have all your mail about it so don't worry ! :-cool best regards,Jan

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Hi Jan!Well, I do have one more issue that I find a bit unrealistic and not quite photoreal. I don't know if I should really write this because I actually don't like to criticise your work after all the time you have put into it. But here it comes:I don't understand why you have made the under side of the rear fuselage so dark that it almost looks black when seen from below at a certain angle. It makes the plane look a bit rusty and dirty which is not the way the real bird looks (and I hope that Thorbj

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Hi Kim,>I don't understand why you have made the under side of the>rear fuselage so dark that it almost looks black when seen>from below at a certain angle.You *will* understand when you do your first photoreal texturing,Kim. Lighting i.e. shadow is conducted by the photo's you'll use. While that can be adapted slightly you're stuck with lighting/shadow that existed at the particular time and weather condition when the photo's were shot.> It makes the plane look a bit>rusty and dirty which is not the way the real bird looks (and>I hope that Thorbj

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Hi Jan!I fully understand your arguments about the pro's and con's of using real photos for the textures. And I have no doubt that you have been very faithful to the photos which Mathias sent you. I am just trying to say that there is a risk of ending up with a set of textures which only looks REALLY 'real' when the plane stands on the ground.Since all our flightsim work is about manipulating and compromising anyway, I just suggest that one could make the shadows a bit less dark, so the textures would blend better with all weather and lighting conditions. This picture shows how I intend to make my repaint of OY-BPB' sister, and I admit that this is just about 100% non-photorealistic:http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/101047.jpgThere is still a lot of work to be done on this one, and it is actually meant to work with the Tico Belle model. And I think we should just end this discussion here, if nobody else has anything to say about this subject...Best regardsKim

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>In fact i have just uploaded a finished model for>checkout.Expect it to be available as a Christmas present any>day now. I just downloaded OY-BPB. Thank you VERY much!!!I just wish every one would stop using those installers. They make installation so difficult...But the repaint is great!!http://www.kotiposti.net/syrjamaki/maambanner.jpg


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Hi Kiki,Sorry about the installer, but it is the only way we can make these free upgrades without giving away the store. Both the XC-47C and OY-BPB are essentially complete aircraft, minus the panels, gauges and sounds. Without the security check in the installer, the cheapskates would take our plane, alias another panel and sounds into it, and then where would we be? We like to be generous to the FS community, but not THAT generous! It's more important to us to be generous with the museum.BTW, I got a note today from Russ Strine, MAAM's President, which said, "R4D flies in


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>Sorry about the installer, but it is the only way we can make>these free upgrades without giving away the store. Both the>XC-47C and OY-BPB are essentially complete aircraft, minus the>panels, gauges and sounds. Without the security check in the>installer, the cheapskates would take our plane, alias another>panel and sounds into it, and then where would we be? I understand that. What you say is 100 % true.I have FS in E:/Flight Simulator not in the default location. I was little frustrated after searching from every corner of my house for the original CD... Maybe now I can finally keep them in order.Thank you for the great christmas present!kikihttp://www.kotiposti.net/syrjamaki/maambanner.jpg


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>Hi Kiki,>>Sorry about the installer, but it is the only way we can make>these free upgrades without giving away the store. Both the>XC-47C and OY-BPB are essentially complete aircraft, minus the>panels, gauges and sounds. Without the security check in the>installer, the cheapskates would take our plane, alias another>panel and sounds into it, and then where would we be? We like>to be generous to the FS community, but not THAT generous! >It's more important to us to be generous with the museum.>Snippage>>Bill Rambow> MAAM-SIM - Rambow, Visser, Banting, Young, Womack, Sodja &>Beaumont>Sorry for the hijack here but I have a problem which pertains to this post. I can NOT install that bpb_fs9.zip file at all. This is even though I have installed the new R4D and the XC-47C. I'm not asking for MAAM-SIM to change their ways, I'd just like to be able to install. Now back to your regularly scheduled thread. :D

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Installer or no installer, BPB is a great aircraft and thank you for making my Christmas brighter for two years in a row.If it helps with the "dark tail" thing, my experience with FS9 is that shadows tend to be overdone in the sim. I think it's because FS9 models shadows correctly, but under-models bounce lighting (that's a movie term for light reflected off of surrounding surfaces). I've noticed it mostly while in the VC mode; there are some aircraft that get so dark in the afternoon or morning with angled sunlight that I've had to turn on the cabin lights to see everything. It's a subtle thing and took me awhile to notice it.Ken G.San Diego

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