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Ultra-HD widescreen flying (display spanning)

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Hello everyone.I didn't think it would work smootly, but apparently it does: Take two Dell 24 inch displays (each one with 1920x1200 pixels native resolution) and a reasonably fast graphics card (Geforce 7800 GS). Set the display mode to horizontal spanning and pick a 3840x1200 pixels resolution (16BPP) in Flight simulator. And then fly Google Earth or MSN Virtual earth - yep, that's the project that I started 10 weeks ago. I demonstrated the prototype it at a meeting of PC enthusiasts. Except during the really long load times, everyone was thrilled.I have a screenshot of that online here:http://www.flickr.com/photos/cbuchner1/357591174/Click "All Sizes" and then "Original" to get the full deal.NOTE: That is more than twice the "True HD" resolution, having an aspect ratio of 32 : 9 ! And it ran 15 FPS stable (I locked it to 15 FPS for better performance when loading phototerrain tiles).I will try to find a photo of the dual LCD screen setup (not a screencapture). Someone who attended the demonstration may have taken photos (unfortunately I didn't).

Hello,I am reading everything, you write, with great interest.Your system seems to be THE future for flightsimming.How sensationell would it look with my setup: ---> five views, each 45 degrees, on five screens with 32" LCD each, that is a total of 225 degrees. The views are linked with the program "wideview".That is real widescreen flying - smileHappy landingsArry

okay, I can't beat that... ;)But I was quite astonished what ONE graphics card can achieve already.

That is fantastic and it's good for me to know that it does work thus just in case my planned Matrox TRIPLEHEAD set-up is a blow-out. I have a DELL 2405 and was toying with getting a DELL 2407 as well, but for now I've ordered Triplehead and will be using the 2405 along with two DELL 2001 and 2007 FP screens. [Not that getting another 2407 would be a cheap alternative!]This does not surprise me at all. I bet it looks stupendous in real life, eh ? The res of 1920x1200 is totally fabulous on the 24" DELLs.Enjoy it all and thanks for posting !JS

Jonathan Sacks

Dell XPS Gen 4, Pentium IV Northwood extreme 3.8Ghz, 3Ghz RAM, eVGA 7900 GTO,

12 GoFlight modules plus MCP-PRO AP and EFIS, GF pedestal, CH rudder pedals,

CH throttle quadrant, 42" LG LED, 24" DELL LCD, Windows XP, FS2004, FSUIPC 3.96

FS Autostart 1.1 (Build 11), FS Navigator 4.6, UT, FE, GE, REX, PMDG, Level-D, PSS, etc.

Subject to budget, try using 2 triplehead2Go modules with 6 monitors, it's mindblowing. In span you get the combined resolution of the 6 monitors. I have only used vertical span to fly. However their is the option to vertical span if you wish. That would be some widescreen!Martin

For second vertical in my previous post read horizontal.SorryMartin

>Subject to budget, try using 2 triplehead2Go modules with 6>monitors, it's mindblowing. In span you get the combined>resolution of the 6 monitors. I have only used vertical span>to fly. However their is the option to vertical span if you>wish. That would be some widescreen!>>MartinThat sounds interesting Martin. Do you mean you have 3 screens sitting above another 3 ? and that your 8800GTX is providing two separate feeds for each TH2G ? How have you set up this arrangement within FSX/FS9? Re WOZ

This image is the setup demonstrating Google Earth based live-streamed phototerrain on a privately organized (closed user group) meeting last weekend.http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/165283.jpgImage Copyright: CC-by-sa Johann H. Addicks

>Subject to budget, try using 2 triplehead2Go modules with 6>monitors, it's mindblowing. How exactly is this configured? I thought Matrox constantly denied the possibility of using two TH2GO modules with one computer, so if you've cracked it I would really like to hear :)How about a pic?--Bryn

<>Apparently you haven't read any of my previous messages on this subject then :-> , I've been pushing/touting this sort of setup since we released FSX (although in my case I'm using 2 non-wide monitors at 1600x1200 each - for a combined 3200x1200 video display).Don't know if you can do this with ATI cards though, I've also only done this with nVidia hardware (seems like ATI is falling farther and farther behind nVidia on this sort of thing, like you can only run 800x600 or 1024x768 for each monitor on a TripleHead2Go with an ATI card but can run at least 1280x1024 and possibly higher when using nVidia hardware with the same TH2G).I showed a similar setup to a flying club down in Richmond, VA a couple of months ago (one of the members of the flying club is a MS employee who had emailed the group looking for some "show props" to use for a demo for his club, instead he got me and my computer since I only live about 50 miles north of there :-> )

Don't know what Matrox say about it but can assure you it works with my setup and in full screen mode.I use 3 monitors plugged into one 3Head2Go module which are placed vertically for the outside display. The other module also has 3 monitors attached, these are for the instrument panels etc. Two are placed under the three for exterior view. On these two I have spanned the 2D instrument panel (PMDG 738 for FS9 and C172 in FSX).The 2D panel is kept in proportion by pushing the aircraft window frame/compass off the monitor and resizing. Radio FMC x 2 fill out the space to the right. The 3rd monitor is placed above the three for external view and has the overhead panel for the PMDG in FS9.How's it done? Having set up the hardware - go into Display properties - you will see that you have two virtual monitors as each three is regarded as one. The maximum resolution depends on your particular monitors. In my case each virtual monitor is seen at 3840 x 1024 (3 X (1280 x 1024). In the Nvidia Desktop Manager select vertical span but make sure that the virtual monitor with the outside view is placed below that of the instrument panels. This will ensure that unwanted parts of a panel such as window frames disappear and not appear in your outside view. Display properties will now show (in my case) a single virtual monitor of 3840 x 2048 (if you went for a horizontal span you would have 7680 x 1024). This resolution needs to be set in FS. It is then a relatively simple matter of dragging and resizing panels to your preferences, after all as far as your PC is concerned there is only ONE monitor and not six.The only other consideration is FSX wher you will need to edit the fsx.cfg file. Change WideViewAspect=False to True. Otherwise when you position the outside view onto three monitors you will only see the ground.Word of caution this works with the Ge-Force 8800 GTX 768Mb card - I do not know if it will work with other cards. AA is set at 4 and AP at 8, everthing in FS9 is maxed out and I get 35 fps (although I now limit this to 25fps). In FSX with autogen on normal I get around 25 using the C172.Photo attached, other monitors seen are connected to another PC for VATSIM, ASV and ServInfo.Hope this is helpful.Martin Plain

Martin,That looks like a very nice set-up. What monitors are you using ? they look like they have small bezels. Can you adjust(move the outside) images inwards to allow for the bezels widths on these monitors ? Re WOZ

Monotors I'm using are for outside view NEC MultiSynch 90GX2 - 19" and for panels Fujitsu L17 - 17". Yes the bezels are very slim.I haven't tried any adjustments to the picture sizes on the monitors. I might try expanding the width of the two outside monitors so that the bezels cover that part of the view as the window frame would do in reality. I'll let you know.Martin Plain

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