Thanks for the tip George. I heard than nVidia changed the 3rd-party that is writing their device drivers about 2 years ago. And, reportedly, ever since then, things have not been as good with nVidia drivers. Have you or anyone else heard this?RhettAMD 3700+ (@2585 mhz), eVGA 7800GT 256 (Guru3D 93.71), ASUS A8N-E, PC Power 510 SLI, 2gb Corsair XMS 3-3-3-8 (1T), WD 150 gig 10000rpm Raptor, WD 250gig 7200rpm SATA2, Seagate 120gb 5400 rpm external HD, CoolerMaster Praetorian

Hi Rhett,I was going to buy the MSI originally as the clock speed was the fastest availale - 850MHz. But they were difficult to find so I plumped for the Asus which runs at 825MHz. Check the clock speed of the one you're considering.I'm not aware of any other differences apart from bundled games which I won't use anyway.

I haven't heard about changing the programmers, but if you take some time to browse their forum, 99% of the problems are driver related, and most of them have to do with TVOut or FSAA.It's really a pitty... Their latest cards are superb in performance but loose a lot due to the drivers.George DorkofikisAthens, Hellashttp://online.vatsimindicators.net/811520/1704.png