I am trying to decide what monitors to buy to make a 3 monitor set-up. I fly almost all of the time on 2-d panels, and view them on one Viesonic, 22'' (4:3 ratio)CRT monitor. The problem I'm having is, now you can only buy 4:3 ratio monitors 19" or smaller. I would LIKE to build a 3 monitor set with monitors 24" or 26", but the ONLY ones that I can find are ther WIDESCREEN versions (16:9 ratio).What do you see on Flight Sim 2004 when you put a 2-d panal on a WIDE SCREEN Monitor? Is it streached across the full screen in a horizonal direction, or do you get a 4:3 ratio panel with two black/gray vertical bars on each side like when I watch a 4:3 ratio movie on my 16:9 ratio HD TV?What if I used my 22" Viewsonic CRT monitor(4:3) in the CENTER and two Wide Screen monitors 16:9 for the LEFT/RIGHT views that had the same vertical dimention that my 22" 4:3 ViewSonic had? Would that give me the 3 views, left, center,right that I want, in 2-D? I have never seen Flight Sim 2004 on a WIDE SCREEN monitor. What does it look like. Thanks jerrycwo4

I have this setup. When I start out the panel is on the center monitor. I creat the 2 new windows and move them over to each monitor. Then I take the panel and move it dow to the lower center monitor. I see nothing out of the ordinary with it when it is on the top center monitor. It is not stretched IMO. I have 3 17" widescreens. I have not edited any panels for width. Only for rotation and height adjustments for lining up the horizon.I also edit the VC out of every model. I gain 20-30% FPS by doing that.I can take a screenie later tonight and post what you see when you start up. In my case, I've never run into any problems with stretching.I think my reso for the top 3 is set 1440X960. Does that sound right? Not at my flight computer.Lower is 1040X768 I think.http://eecherrors.homestead.com/monitor3.jpg

I have Samsung 24" native 1920x1200. If you have Nvidia like I do, you can set it up to:1) Use NVIDIA sacling with fixed-aspect ratio - which will, for instance, if you set 1600x1200 in FS, give you a full height (in my case), and black bars on the side when in full screen mode.2) Do not scale - won't scale, and will show the picture in the monitor - if you set 1024x768, it will effectively show so many pixels, a smaller picture.3) Use NVIDIA scaling - will stretch.I use 1).It's a FACT, most of panels are 4:3 ratio. There are some replacement panels in widescreen, but I guess you don't want to fuss, neither do I.So, if you have a widescreen monitor, and want a FULL picture on it, panels are going to STRETCH. This is 100% fact.People use some workarounds, they resize the panel, and put radio stack, FMC... on the side. Doesn't look pretty with most of panels. Also, if you use VC and Spot View, there is no stretching.If you use 1) like I do, you have black bars, but at least you have a normal ratio. The post of a guy above states that he has no stretching on his widescreen center monitor. Simply impossible. His center is either 4:3 aspect, or he has black bars, or he can't differ between round and oval.Be careful about one thing: native resolution. You have to stay in it, cuz otherwise your picture is going to be mega-blurry.

Is it true that Matrox TH2G can only output to 1280 X 1024? So the three screens that you have using TH2G will only have a res of 1280 X 1024?I ask because I have two 1680 X 1050 widescreen TFTs and would like to add a third. But its no point if i have to use them at a lower res!Am I reading this right lol. From their website:TripleHead2Go appears to your system as an ultra-widescreen 3840x1024* monitor and simply connects to your computer via a standard analog VGA monitor cable. Using Matrox patent-pending technology, TripleHead2Go then splits the 3840 x 1024 Microsoft

Correct, 12 X 10 is the highest resolution right now.Jimhttp://www.hifisim.com/banners/hifi-community-sigbanner.jpghttp://www.hifisim.com/

Hi Word Not Allowed- re 2D panels on wide screen monitors: awhile back I did some experimenting to see the effect of lateral shrinking of a 2D panel and filling the remaining unused desktop with a popup- in this case the captain's CDU. The lower EICAS display and switches would also fit there nicely.While I don't personally have Wide mons, the idea looks to be quite practical- even on 4:3 monitors!!. Have a look at these pics for comparison.One thing that really helps with any 2D multi mon setup is to have a very dark desktop- mine is "no colour"- ie dark gray. Then any unused bit of desktop is not noticeable. In the first pic, can you spot the unused desktop?Ans.- Right monitor, middle left edge!Alex Reid747@ CYVR exper. simul. of a wide screen main monhttp://forums.avsim.net/user_files/188155.jpgPmdg 747 Ckpt. prep Gate 16 CYVR-CYEG (std 4:3 mons)http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/188156.jpg

>I too and trying to decide what monitors to buy to>make a 3 monitor set-up. I fly almost all of the time on 2-d>panels, and view them on one Viesonic, 22'' (4:3 ratio)CRT>monitor. The problem I'm having is, now you can only buy 4:3>ratio monitors 19" or smaller. I would LIKE to build a 3>monitor set with monitors 24" or 26", but the ONLY ones that I>can find are ther WIDESCREEN versions (16:9 ratio).>DELL do a 20" and NEC do a 21" both 1600x1200>What do you see on Flight Sim 2004 when you put a 2-d panal on>a WIDE SCREEN Monitor? Is it streached across the full screen>in a horizonal direction, or do you get a 4:3 ratio panel with>two black/gray vertical bars on each side like when I watch a>4:3 ratio movie on my 16:9 ratio HD TV?>>What if I used my 22" Viewsonic CRT monitor(4:3) in the CENTER>and two Wide Screen monitors 16:9 for the LEFT/RIGHT views>that had the same vertical dimention that my 22" 4:3 ViewSonic>had? Would that give me the 3 views, left, center,right that I>want, in 2-D? I have never seen Flight Sim 2004 on a WIDE>SCREEN monitor. What does it look like. Thanks jerrycwo4>A DELL 20"(4:3) coupled with 2 x DELL 24"(16:10) works really well as the monitors are exactly the same height and are both 1200 pixels high

IN FACT, I do not have stretching and AM NOT wrong. Perhaps those with 4:3 are squeezed?I know EXACTLY what I have here with this setup and it is EXACTLY like I described it.Why is my information a FACT? Simple. Its MY system and I BUILT it and I am reporting it as a FACT here at my location.I make NO claims about anyone elses system, just mine. I am not claiming that every system reacts like mine. I've never seen ANY black bars.And what is considered unacceptable stretching anyway? are we talking about 1/2"? If so then I could care less. The panel looks about right to me. Someone please get out their ruler and do some measuring so we can compare to the real specifications.While you're at it, look over at the vomit on the carpet from your dog. Yeah thats right, its a SIMULATION. Its in your LIVING ROOM.WTH cares about 1/2"?Please.....To prove my system has no BLACK BARS, I'll post a screen shot later with the panel of a stock FS plane. Of course, you would have to believe that I wouldn't use Photoshop to fix the black bars wouldn't you?Ah, the above "POSTER OF FACT" must believe that my purpose is to trick the OP into getting black bars on his system. I just call it like I see it Edith.

Ok, whats the problem with this? Other than the horizons not lining up correctly as I don't fly this plane and I havnt edited the cfg for alignment.This also shows about why I added the 3rd monitor below. I believe I move farther away from realism by looking at an image like this. http://eecherrors.homestead.com/panelstock2.jpgHeres a better setup for 2d / 3monitor setup. Add 4th monitor. If you look at the radio stack, the lower element is vastly stretched, but the radio dials are readable. This whole deal of "simulation" has to be compromised somewhere. I'll trade that stretched element in the radio panel for the above panoramic view any day of the week. http://eecherrors.homestead.com/betterpanel.JPGOh, hold on, the cat just sprayed the sofa I have to go. I forgot I was looking at a computer monitor and not out the windshield of an airplane. Silly me. Jesh......

When Word Not Allowed reported that a Widescreen will Stretch the 2D image he wasn't saying you get black bars. He was pointing out that a gauge that is normally circular eg 100px x 100 px will become oval 160px x 100px. See the example I posted a few posts up: the same view on both a 4:3 and a 16:10.Some people will be OK with it, others will find it irritating. The original poster wanted to know the effect of Widescreen on 2D panels.The effect is stretching (but no black bars unless you choose to drag the panel back ).RegardsJim

Someone please get out their ruler and do some measuring so we can compare to the real specificationsIn my last post I wrote 100x100 would become 160x100 SORRY should have had a cuppa Tea first. A 100x100 gauge would stretch to 120x100RegardsJim

I had to return my Triple Head to Go because of this and now use their ANALOG dual head to go (see specs below). It is GREAT at 2560 x 1280, and a lot cheaper than the 3HTGO. The third monitor goes right into the second head of my ATI card.Make sure you check your card's compatibility with their website tool before you buy, but I love it.

Thanks for the info Jim :) Guess I'll have to wait a bit!!@ Chuck - hey thanks for that, will check it out right now. Interesting how you had to bin the Triple and go for the Dual!!

>I know EXACTLY what I have here with this setup and it is>EXACTLY like I described it.Not really. "I see nothing out of the ordinary with it when it is on the top center monitor. It is not stretched IMO. I have 3 17" widescreens." <- this is simply not a correct statement.>Why is my information a FACT? Simple. Its MY system and I>BUILT it and I am reporting it as a FACT here at my location.>I make NO claims about anyone elses system, just mine. I am>not claiming that every system reacts like mine. I've never>seen ANY black bars.Dude, I get it that you built your system and that you are very proud of it. I really do. I would be too. But don't run other people into into false facts because of your proudness.>>And what is considered unacceptable stretching anyway? are we>talking about 1/2"? If so then I could care less. The panel>looks about right to me. Someone please get out their ruler>and do some measuring so we can compare to the real>specifications.A stretching is considered when you stretch the panel a pixel over its original size. 1280x960, 1600x1200 are 1,33 ratios. All other are considered stretched panels. Only maybe also for acceptable "shrinking" would be 1280x1024. But also not the real thing.>To prove my system has no BLACK BARS, I'll post a screen shot>later with the panel of a stock FS plane. Of course, you would>have to believe that I wouldn't use Photoshop to fix the black>bars wouldn't you?I won't discuss this any more since it is going into personal attack. I only stated the obvious fact, so now if the original poster wants his panels stretched or not, is his decision.

>Ok, whats the problem with this? Other than the horizons not>lining up correctly as I don't fly this plane and I havnt>edited the cfg for alignment.>This also shows about why I added the 3rd monitor below. I>believe I move farther away from realism by looking at an>image like this. >>>http://eecherrors.homestead.com/panelstock2.jpgThe problem with this is that the panel is stretched. You can notice the ND being oval and not round as on the lower pic. That is bugging me and probably many others on this forum.