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What to fly in the Race?

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Mike (2002cbr600f4i) asked for recommendations aircraft for the race. I thought this question deserved its own thread.The best place to start is the 2006 General Rules:http://users.adelphia.net/~mattsmith19/RTW/rules.htmSection 2.a.II of the 2006 General Rules states: Aircraft must fit into one of the following categories:i) Piston-powered fixed-wing aircraft.ii) Turboprop-powered, fixed-wing aircraft of two engines or fewer.iii) Rotorcraft.So we are looking for a propeller driven aircraft that can go fast for two hours. Ruggedness is also useful for landing on short strips. I

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How many bounces would you like with this landing?OMG! :D I forgot about those!Boys and girls. For this sing along, just follow the bouncing 'Pony'. LOL

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Heh, I still break my Nose Gear more than I like. I swear by the end of the race last year the thing was held on by duct tape and balling wire.

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Hmm, I'll probably be sticking to the built in aircraft rather than add-ins since I have a lot more experience with them. So, of the built in stuff in FS9 and FSX what would people recommend?Also, I've seen people mention that they participated last year, but didn't carry the baton. What exactly were they doing then?I'm very interested to see how this is all done. It's not like all the teams are flying on a multi-player environment together, right?Guess I'll learn more during practice on Sat night...BTW, trying to rope 2 other buddies into joining in as well...--Mike

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Well something your consistant and can fly well with is your best choice.Of the default FS9 aircraft if I had to pick I'd probably fly the KingAir.

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I was also a first time flyer last year, and flew wing or "entourage." I was very happy in Dave Copley's "definitive Lightning," which is available as freeware here on Avsim, I think. Easy to fly (and land!) and very forgiving. I've purchased the FSD Cheyenne and the ** P-51D/H package since then and have been warming up on those to try to keep up with the speed demons this year. I just need to learn how to see in the dark. ;-)CB

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Sweet....If you could, please give me the links to where I can get everything needed for that. I'm (planning) to fly using FSX and it sounds like the P-51 would be a good choice for fast...How much work did you have to do to convert it over for use with FSX?--Mike

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It's a commercial title. $24.95http://www.shockwaveproductions.com/store/p51/The installer is for FS9. Had to find the files in my FS9 and copy them to the correct place in FSX. Klas pointed me to this post in the Shockwave forums which had a list of files to copy. http://shockwaveproductions.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6459FSX folders are similar to FS9 except the "aircraft-folder" goes into SimObjects/Airplanes instead of Aircraft. Jeff

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Ah, gotchya. Hmmmm... What's top speed on that while @ 8000 ft? (since I assume we'll be limited to 8500 again this year...) And what sort of range?I have the Abacus Flight Deck 4 for FSX and it has a E-2 Hawkeye in it. I just did some testing and it'll do 300 kts @ 8000 ft and seems pretty easy to fly. Best I could get out of the default FSX King Air 350 was around 220 kts, so the Hawkeye is probably the fastest prop in my stable right now. It'll also easily do that for 2 hours flight time. (Ferry Range 1600 miles!)--Mike

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I carried the baton at least once last year, but when not carrying the baton, I flew along, flew ahead, scouted out the weather and cheered the team on. It was my first real introduction to multiplayer and I have to say it was a blast just to be a part of it.I flew the free P-38. Was fast. Easy to handle on takeoff and landing.

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Where did the DC-7 come from? I'd like to get that one. I am looking for some prop powered airliner. Maybe a Connie.

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In addition to all written here, Here is a great post for further consideration:http://forums.flightsim.com/dc/dcboard.php...g_id=3710&page=It is mostly "Easy Ed" (who hangs out mostly at SOH) with comments by Reggie Fields (FlightSim and everywhere!). Very good reading for everyone, especially those considering which types of aircraft they want to choose.Important to say, even if repeating: you should feel very comfortable with your aircraft when flying under difficult circumstances. You'll surely fly in the dark, with limited visibility, and land on strange, short fields in sizable crosswinds. That is the fun of it!Best.Mike

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Apparently there will be no altitude restrictions this year?If so... the Columbia 400 (Eaglesoft) is a great aircraft for this event.

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I just flew the first leg of last year's race EDDI->ESMQ... in the Columbia:DIST 271.7nm EST ACTGS 196 193FUEL 24.9 25.2ETE 1:22 1:24

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That's a pretty good leg for the Columbia.Just checked the 2006 race stats. Jeroen was the AVSIM lead off pilot. He flew that leg in the P-51H in 1:04 with an average speed of 255.The fastest leg in a general qualification aircraft was flown by Sonar5 (PJON -> PHSF). He flew the Piaggio Avanti 818 miles in 1:58 averaging 416knts.Jeff W

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The Columbia is a rather fast single prop. I would strongly suggest it as a replacement for legs where the Cessna 172/182/208 tends to be used. It is even easier to fly than the Cessnas.Most private/non-military prop aircraft will be hard pressed to even come close to what military props can do for sustained airspeeds.

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Thanks! That link had some good info....I'm DL'ing the P38L, p38L-Racer and P38M right now to try on FSX. I also ran over to Fry's tonight and picked up the Shockwave WWII Fighters package. Considering also getting the P51 package as well (Is the H model THAT much faster than the D??? I know they made a lot of engine improvements, but geesh!)Gonna try to get a bunch of flights in over the next 2 weeks with these.Too bad I can't bring my desktop machine into the office. I'm twiddling my thumbs at work waiting for new projects to come in, and could get a LOT of test flying in... --Mike

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Ok, just tested out the P-38L+M packages in FSX. They work, but there are "rstart1" and "rstart2" gauges that are not supported (they're older FS98 gauges). Also, I had some graphics corruption when I switched from VC to 2D. From that point forward, no matter what view I switched to it kept the bottom portion of the screen displaying the gauges. Still, very flyable in FSX and certainly fast. VERY easy to handle + land (even with full realism cranked up.) Took off, climbed to 8000, kicked it to high speed, circled around and landed at another municipal airport on the first try.I also took the WW2 Fighters P51-D for a spin. WOW Twitchy! Also very hard to take off (so much engine torque, didn't want to go down the runway very straight...) But likewise, I managed to take off, climb, fly to another local municipal and land on first try (although it was a pretty fugly landing, you guys weren't kidding about the bouncing!)Anyhow, I'm going to try to get as much practice in with these two as I can.Any recommendations on good difficult approaches/airstrips to practice getting into?Also, I would recommend to any FSX users, for the competition, crank the autogen off, AI traffic, cars, boats, etc all OFF. You want max FSX performance, looks don't matter as much (although I did use 2M scenery and have most other stuff turned to at least mid settings.)--Mike

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Best to practice at a high altitude airport like KASE. Also a 20knt crosswind will help prepare you for the worst and you might want to try some 1/4 mile visibility landings using the GPS which can happen in the race.Actually maybe we should do some multiplayer circuits so we can critique each other's approaches.

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Hey! Lookie what I found in my hangar. Almost forgot I had her.FW190.jpgNot that I'd use the FW190 over the Pony (last year clearly proved the 51 is the superior mount), but coming across this bird got me all misty eyed.Oh - for '06 Vets. Speaking of old birds, no Talon for me this year. Daddy got a new glow toy from the wife on X-Mas.F4F.jpgMUHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! :D Someone had better put up a 'No Low Alt Supersonic Sprints By Off-Duty Pilots' NOTAM this year.

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