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CTD after scenery cfg re-arrange

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I just finished re-arranging my scenery cfg and dont know if I did it right. During a flight from mia-atl just over the vqq vortac fs crashes to the desk without any message. I was able to reproduce this twice. It was during the night in the winter. My latest organization scheme was to put the addon landclass above everything else, the seatac mall addon just above addon scenery, and the airports under the areal photos, and eveything else below that. Am I doing this wrong? Does anyone have a tutorial about fs scenery organization? This has been my 1st crash since re-install a month and 1/2 ago.

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Hey Mike; She's backwards! In this quick description ignore the "priority" numbers on your screenshots for the moment:1. Push the UT_USA and CAN/ALASKA files to - pictorially - below the photo files - under Amsterdam.2. Push FSGLC to the next spot above the two main UT files, with UT_CITY above that.3. Then - move the airport sceneries (between Jackson's Hole and Las Vegas)up above the 'photo files, along with the FreeFlow stuff.4. I think the FS Terrain Mesh Scenery can move down one. This should fix the issue.The problem comes in the various ways which people describe "priority, the way this is numbered in the scenery.cfg, and the way it's displayed on the screen. It's upside-down.Priority 1 is the Default Terrain - shown here as 60. In the scenery.cfg it's numbered as Area.001, Layer=1. The "Layer =" will set the priority. I ignore the screen numbering because it's confusing. Below are extracts from mine, (and I've removed a few lines from each to save space.)[Area.001]Title=Default TerrainTexture_ID=1Layer=1[Area.002]Title=Default SceneryLocal=SceneryBASELayer=2[Area.003]Title=AfricaLayer=3Your UT should be around Layer = 13 or 14, with say, FlyTampa Miami up at at the top end, along with the other airports. Below you'll see that, although Area 13 comes before UTUSA - it's Layer number puts it at a "lesser important" priority than UTUSA. The "Area" is only an indication of what number was given to it when it was installed. The higher that number - the later it was installed. When you move it down it gets a different Layer number; i.e. it becomes more important, with Layer 1 being the "most important".[Area.013]Title=Amsterdam Aerial PhotoLayer=17[Area.039]Title=UTUSALayer=14[Area.040]Title=UTCANADALayer=13[Area.041]Title=FSGLCLayer=15[Area.042]Title=UTCITYLayer=16. . and then the airports. . [Area.052]Title=FlyTampa-SanFranciscoLayer=52[Area.053]Title=FlyTampa-SeattleLayer=53Does this help? Maybe someone can make it more clear?Regards,


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Thanks thats very clear and has opened my eyes up to this some more. Now Only if I could solve my fps issues, Boy I wish I had your conroe right about now, when looking head on to frf jfk 2004 from r/w 31L I get only 19fps with the lds 767 with my 3800 at 2.8! This happens when im looking at any airport building in fs, even flytampa which is supposed to be good on frames. Im out of ideas with that, the last thing I can think of before forking over some cash to fsgs is changing some textures to dxt3, is there a program out there that will be able to change the format of mass texture files at once?Heres my cfg, Idk if any of you whizzes out there can work your magic, but if you could spare a moment of time to help me out I would really appreciate 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Too long to put my whole cfg in, Mike, but these are the only major differences I can see. Yeah - the Conroe's are good, but your rig ought to be pretty warm, too. I'm wishing I had bought the nVidia card instead, as I want to get the TripleHead2Go system. Yours. . Mine . . .MAX_UNLIMITED_VIS=144840 48280 30 miles or so.CLOUD_DRAW_DISTANCE=8 7 CloudsImpostorRingRadius=128000.000000 112000.000000FULL_SCREEN=0 1WATER_EFFECTS=2 1LOD_TARGET_FPS=24 17Mode=1024x768x32 16 Never see the difference, but 32 bit color EATS fps and memory resources. UPPER_FRAMERATE_LIMIT=35 25TEXTURE_BANDWIDTH_MULT=450 300TERRAIN_MAX_VERTEX_LEVEL=19 21 - because of FSG meshTERRAIN_DEFAULT_RADIUS=3.00000 9.990000TERRAIN_EXTENDED_RADIUS=3.000000 9.800000TERRAIN_EXTENDED_LEVELS=6 232LENSFLARE=1 0ShowLabels=1 0 Matt Fox's web site has some pointers to conversion tools, as the FSX guys are using them big-time.Regards,


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Thnaks for the help paul, tried it all though and it didnt fix a thing :(. Heres a ss to prove it, I dont get it, asv6 was not running, squawkbox was not running, scenery complexity is at normal. How can It be that I only get 17fps just because im looking at an airport?? Are there any tweaks that I should try besides lowering the cloud desity and draw options, they dont make any difference, so I guess my video card is doing what it should, but it seems the cpu stuff is slow. Ive been troubleshooting this for months and no one seems to have any clue why this is happening to me.BTW I tried all the things like fs autostart, disabling anti virus, disk defrag, but they make no difference whatsoever, and yes aa is off in fs.

Maybe it's traffic causing the problems...try dropping your traffic slider to 0 and see how that affects things. Places like JFK are horrible because of the large amount of traffic being loaded with all the other airports in the area (much of which you can't see) and hence a kazillion texture loads...especially if you have some AI birds which are not properly textured and mipped for performance. Imagine the workload of trying to render 20 high-polygon PMDG models at once...even though they may be way out in the distance or behind a hangar somewhere.Have you experimented with the Render to Texture setting?OTOH, based on my last system, 19fps with traffic at KJFK doesn't seem to be out of the question with your system.RegardsBob ScottATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-VSantiago de Chile

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Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE
Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro
Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case

Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090
Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz,
3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU
Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro
PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box

Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090
Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus,
TM TCA Officer Pack
, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case

I never use traffic, only vatsim tfc, during my test squawkbox was not on so there was no traffic, and there was no weather.

To be honest - I don't have much of the scenery you have, Mike, so I can't comment on what happens when you look at a particular airport: let me just say that there are some packages that aren't very frame-friendly and even with the Conroe I still get a hesitation - maybe two - at Seattle. I'm running locked at around 25, but can easily lock it at 40 in FS9 and 25 in FSX. I'm thinking that perhaps 2.8 gig aren't enough ponies. I use fs autostart, too. Good tool. I notice the admin has moved this post into the FSX forum?????? What's with that??Anyway - here's my full specs:-


i7 [email protected] | 32GB RAM | EVGA RTX 3080Ti | Maximus Hero VII | 512GB 860 Pro | 512GB 850 Pro | 256GB 840 Pro | 2TB 860 QVO | 1TB 870 EVO | Seagate 3TB Cloud | EVGA 1000 GQ | Win10 Pro | EK Custom water cooling.

Hmm I dont know why this topic was moved its not really about ctd's anymore. Anyway I guess its the scenery then, I tried flytampa mia again and got about 30 frames, I guess 2.8 isnt enough. Thats a shame, myabe I'll get a k8L when it comes out and get some better results.

I think maybe the moderators have formed a subconscious connection between bad things like CTDs and FSX. CTD...oooh that's bad...let's put those in the FSX forum. Just a theory. :-)RegardsBob ScottATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-VSantiago de Chile

Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc
ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V

Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE
Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro
Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case

Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090
Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz,
3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU
Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro
PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box

Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090
Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus,
TM TCA Officer Pack
, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case

lol...

  • 3 weeks later...

Ahh well I just tried another flight and the problem is back, same exact spot, same exact problem. CTD around CRG.

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