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Is the Active Camera worth the $15?

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I am a guy who likes to fly to see the passenger views and wing views of the plane. So, is the Active Camera worth it?

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Well... yes! It is worth it just for the movement in the virtual cockpit... everything else is a bonus. You can search old posts, but honestly I don't see a reason not to get it...

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I believe I recommended the tool found here in one of your other posts regarding wing views: www.fs-recorder.netYou can set up a wing view for almost any aircraft, and install is easy. You can also set up interesting spot views. I strongly suggest this program before paying anything for a commercial program, not that Active Camera isn't good, but Matthias' tool really adds a lot to FS2004. Matthias did a great job with it, and it offers so much more than just recording and playing back flights, which it also excels at.Regards,John

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I tried to but it didn't really work too well. The replay part is great but I don't understand how to set up different views.

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You are going to have a learning curve with any program, including Active Camera. I suggest giving it another try and don't be afraid to ask questions in his forums.Regards,John

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After playing around with the recorder, I've LOVED it. Now, I truly understand how to use it and set up the wing views! You need different aircraft and if you get one view down with one aircraft and save it, its the same for everything else. Thanks guys, you saved me $15 ;)

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majhankee please can you tell me how you set up those wingviews using Recorder? I just cant get it right :(Thanks!

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>majhankee please>can you tell me how you set up those wingviews using Recorder?>I just cant get it right :(>>Thanks!Ummm...I would first suggest that you get a Camsim Boeing 787 plane or Airbus 350 from this site: http://pages.infinit.net/camsim/Then, download any one of them but I suggest the British Airways A350 (its my fav). Then, when you're playing, press the 6 or 4 button on the numeric keyboard (right side of the keyboard) and press ALT. The game will pause. Then press ALT again and the view will remain in that wing view. Then go to the Virtual Cockpit view and press ALT again and go to the Recorder menu and press "New VC view". You should now have the wing view and you can use the arrow keys or joystick to survey around. It's really cool, you have to play around with the views.Oh, and also...once you have set up that wing view with the Camsim plane, you can use that same view on any other plane you want. And you can edit the view to go at different zooms, like 2x zoom or only 0.5x zoom.Yeah, my explanation might not be clear but try it.

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Although that is a great way to work with wing views with aircraft that have them modeled, a number of aircraft don't have them modeled--i.e. the HJG DC-8.That's where recorder.dll really shines, as you can set up a spot view to act as a wing view. Unlike the default MSFS spot view, the spot view recorder offers can "move" in synch with the aircraft, giving a passenger's eye perspective as an aircraft makes its way through the skies.To set up a spot view that can substitute as a wing view in aircraft lacking them, the steps are pretty simple to follow.First, pick the aircraft you want to use.Next, go to the Recorder menu, and choose "Advanced Spot Views", then "New Spot View".After creating the new spot view, return to the Recorder menu, choose "Advanced Spot Views", then "Edit Spot View".Here you will assign your Spot View a name (such as "HJG DC-8 Starboard Wing View). Next, you will assign parameters for your Spot View, such as those I show here in my attached screenshot. You'll have to experiment with the distance and altitude to get your spot view right, but the most important thing is to leave all three options checked. You can vary the distance, altitude and view direction to set up exactly the type of wing view you want. Once done, you can save the spot view in a folder and load it back up whenever you load the aircraft.Remember, the spot view can be used to create a realistic pax/wing view perspective for a model that doesn't have them built as part of the virtual cockpit. If a model does, no need to use spot view in this manner. I've attached a second example shot showing a wing view I set up for the default MSFS MD-8x.Regards,Johnhttp://forums.avsim.net/user_files/182650.jpghttp://forums.avsim.net/user_files/182651.jpg

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"WOW! Thanks!"No, thanks goes to you and anyone who finds a few of my thoughts can help them. I love what Avsim offers the community, and tho' I haven't been here as much as I'd like lately, I know Avsim is always there and the sense of community here is second to none.Happy New Year,John

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majhankee & John - thank you both for taking the time to explain how Recorder works. I admit I've been trying to figure it out for quite some time but got nowhere. For some reason the custom views I set up always seemed to end up pointing someplace odd! Now that I have both your instructions to hand I shall check them out! I have a freeware C17 that does not have its own modelled wingviews so Recorder will be perfect for that!Happy New Year. Be well :)

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---------------------------------After creating the new spot view---------------------------------Thats where Im getting stuck! Everyone seems to be getting it right except me!! How do you go about actually setting the view?For example I used the numbers from your screenshot above but the Recorder camera sits directly *above* the plane looking down on it (from a point directly above the fuselage mid-point).http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v630/Thr...Up/C17Small.jpgI cant get the camera to "drop down" and then "tilt" to the left to look along the left wing - like what you have done to create that wingview :)I think im missing something important here, I think I utterly dont get how the views work or how the camera is oriented!:(

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First, you need to make sure all three boxes are checked in the Spot View edit dialog, as in my example above. Second, although my numbers are fine for a specific aircraft, another may require a second set of numbers--you have to be willing to experiment. Also, you may need to pan around the spot view using the Recorder's pan keys in order to get it "just right".Last, you need to make sure the recorder spot view is engaged, and not the FS9 spot view. On my system "shift+v" is mapped to toggle between the spot views, although you might have mapped other keys.Is that a freeware aircraft? If so, let me know which one and where I can download, and I can set up a spot view and email you the saved view, from which you can study and make adjustments.Happy New Year,John

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Hey Majhankee,To help with your active camera question. I am a happy user of the addon. When I fly my aircraft, I use it to pretend I'm a passenger onboard the very aircraft I'm flying. A split personality defect for which I continue to forget to take medication for.:( Anyway, I do beleive that dreamfleet has a free utility that does the same thing. Here is the link: http://atr.flight1.net/atr_downloads.asp. Its called the F1 view utility or something like that. I've not tried it because as stated earlier, I've long enjoyed active camera. Good luck.

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----------------------------------------------let me know which one and where I can download, and I can set up a spot view and email you the saved view, from which you can study and make adjustments.----------------------------------------------That is a very kind offer John and Id be a fool to turn it down! :) Studying how you did it will help a great deal and Im sure it will cut learning time to nothing!Its the FS2004 Boeing C-17 Cargomaster III (2nd download) on this page:http://www.simviation.com/pageimages/sc17.JPGhttp://www.simviation.com/fs2004military77.htm Thanks!!!!!!On another note: I have the F1View utility - does that cause problems with FS Recorder?

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I thought I would share this with everyone. Paste the first thirteen lines below my squigglies into notepad, then save it as "C-17.SPT"Next, use the load feature in the Recorder spot view dropdown to load it up. If recorder is configured correctly, you should see a view looking at the port wing of the C-17.I have the Flight1 View utility and it coexists gracefully with the recorder.dllBelow this snippet I've also pasted my recorder.ini file. There could be some odd setting there I've made that makes the view come up easily for me. You can always try replacing your recorder.ini with mine, in tandem with loading the spt file created with my example here. ~~~~~~~~~~~~[sPOTVIEWS]nViews=1View0Name=C-17View0X=-3.652View0Y=0.764View0Z=-8.208View0Pit=1.228View0Bnk=0.000View0Hdg=-74.989View0Zoom=64View0Pan=1View0RotH=1View0RotPB=1----(Recorder.ini below)[sETTINGS]RplyItvl=125DfltItvlIdx=1RplyEnabled=0JumpSize1=15JumpSize2=60JumpSize3=300BufferSize=1024RplyClear=0Pause=0TrafficOff=0ShowRec=0ShowPlay=0RecFlags=95PlayFlags=95SearchSpeed1=5SearchSpeed2=15SearchSpeed3=50Search1=0Search2=0Search3=0PlayAIMode=0MaxAIAcft=0SetSimRate=1SetSimRateSrch=0LimSimRate=0ContrAiPlay=1WindAiPlay=0NoRecDlg=0[WINDOW]Show=0[RECORD]DfltItvlIdx=0DfltAutostop=1DfltAutostopTime=5RecAI=0AIItvlFactor=10[VIEWSETTINGS]TowerStep1=0.030TowerStep2=0.305TowerStep3=0.305SpotStep=0.152PanStep=3.000MaxTwrDist=55560.000MaxAutozoom=32768.000MinAutozoom=16.000[TOWERVIEWS]nViews=1View0Name=Tower view 1View0Lat=37.61135000View0Lon=-122.37036667View0Alt=63.09View0Pit=3.218View0Bnk=0.000View0Hdg=9.778View0Zoom=255View0Pan=1View0AutoZoom=0.000000[sPOTVIEWS]nViews=1View0Name=Recorder Spot ViewView0X=-18.092View0Y=-0.148View0Z=-26.448View0Pit=-6.000View0Bnk=0.000View0Hdg=41.835View0Zoom=64View0Pan=1View0RotH=1View0RotPB=1View1Name=Spot view 2View1X=-4.775View1Y=1.066View1Z=-8.481View1Pit=6.251View1Bnk=0.000View1Hdg=29.381View1Zoom=64View1Pan=0View1RotH=1View1RotPB=0View2Name=Spot view 3View2X=10.615View2Y=0.508View2Z=7.504View2Pit=2.238View2Bnk=0.000View2Hdg=-125.257View2Zoom=64View2Pan=0View2RotH=1View2RotPB=0View3Name=Spot view 4View3X=5.242View3Y=3.910View3Z=-1.779View3Pit=35.238View3Bnk=0.000View3Hdg=-71.257View3Zoom=64View3Pan=0View3RotH=1View3RotPB=0View4Name=Spot view 5View4X=-9.424View4Y=2.930View4Z=-4.982View4Pit=15.367View4Bnk=0.000View4Hdg=62.139View4Zoom=64View4Pan=0View4RotH=1View4RotPB=0[VCVIEWS]nViews=0[KEYBOARD]Beginning=0Back3=0Back2=0Back1=0Forward1=0Forward2=0Forward3=0End=0LoopStart=111LoopEnd=0LoopToggle=46SpeedInc=0SpeedDec=0SpeedReset=0HeightCorrInc=4203HeightCorrDec=4205Record=0Play=0Replay=0PlayTraffic=0Stop=27StopHere=4123NewView=8278DelView=12374NextView=86PrevView=4182Autozoom=8282

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Thanks John! The port wingview came up fine and Im now examining how you went about it. Its the Distance field thats been causing me problems so Im taking a look now! Thanks again for your time. most appreciated :)

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