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Help - freeware commander broke FS!

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I just installed the new freeware commander, and now fs2002 is completely broken. Whenever I select any aircraft, I get a black screen and my computer locks up. Then I get an HGHB Gauge error in windows saying "Open Regsitry Write"I need to uninstall all the files that program put on my computer. I think the culprit is hjpgauges.cab.Does anyone know where I can get a working copy of this file? If someone has it could it be sent to me at Craig31@adelphia.net. It overwrote my old one and now NOTHING works. I just want to uninstall this plane and just get back to a working program without re-installing.

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Did you by chance unzip the HGHBgauge.cab file? There are two gauge files that you need for the commander:HGHBgauge.cabST_500.cabBoth of these are to be put into the gauge folder within FS2002 as you get them. DO NOT unzip these files.....place them as they are. Hope this helps out in some way.Harry

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Graig sorry to hear that you run into some troubles but please see your inbox with instructions also forwarded the mail to get you more help, because it's very late here local but we are sitting on both sides of the Atlantic :-)Don't worry we help you with this one and even to fly it...Andr

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Well, I deleted and replaced the file 4 times, and now everything seems to work fine now, even the Commander. Thanks for the help. Not sure what happened, but everything is back working now hopefully for good.

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Craig,There are over 13,000 users of this aircraft now. I suspect the issue is with unzipping the .cab files.Andre forwarded you the gauge set by email. Place the file in your FS2002/Gauges folder intact... do not unzip it.Both of these files are in your original aircraft zip if you still have it.If both were unzipped, you will also need to copy/paste the ST_500.cab to your FS2002/Gauges folder as well.If a visual instruction is needed to make this more clear, see the files included in your package called aircraftinstallation.jpg and gaugeinstallation.jpgLet me know if you need other assistance.Milton

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Graig glad to hear that it's solved :-)Have fun and happy flying and we hope that you enjoy the commander...Andr

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LOL Craig,I guess we were posting at the same time. I'm happy you got it working okay.Warm RegardsMilton

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Wonderful plane guys, but I find it makes an incredible hit on my frame rates. I wonder if this is common.Is the Commander that much more complex than your Dash 7 (One of the best aircraft in my hangar, BTW. Thanks)I don't have a high end machine (PIII, 1.0 Ghz, 256 Mb and Radeon 7000) but still manage satisfactory frame rates of 15-20 in the 2d cockpit view with most add ons. But the Commander drops it to 2-3 fps.Any suggestions?BlairCYOW

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Just wanted to sneak in a well deserved "THANKS" for the Commander. Another outstanding job by Milton and team!

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Regarding the framerate hits..What are Op system are you running? We havent experienced anything like this before? Did you allow the zip to install, or did you extract it manually?Scott

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I'm flying the Commander with a PIII 650, and an ATI Rage 128, with no noticable hits on frame rate. This one has me stumped......Harry

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Blair...That is totally unreasonable. There is an issue somewhere.I design and run these aircraft on this old 350mhz AMD and in the 2D cockpit I hit 11-12 my fps limit with a PCI card. I get 6-7 fps in VC mode.Give us more info or write to Scott directly. We'll see what we can do.Milton

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Also, how much memory in your video card, and what screen resolution are you running?Milton

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Wow. You guys are great.My OS is Windows ME, the ATI 7000 is a 32 MB PCI card.One issue I discovered was the 3rd party King Air sound file I'd aliased the commander to. Turning the sound off bumped up my frame rates a notch.By lowering the sliders, reducing AI traffic and a few other tweaks I've got acceptable frame rates (12-15 at Meigs on the 2d panel, but still dropping to between 5 and 8 fps in the VC and in spot view.) That's lower than I get with the Dash 7, but good enough for my humble needs.I did have some install problems, foolishly unzipping the gauge files before realizing the error, deleting them and installing the two gauge CAB files correctly.Please don't take my original post as a complaint. Quite the opposite. Your team has down amazing work and I and a thousand other simmers are grateful.BlairOttawa, Canada (where, I might add, that the prototype Dash 7 and Twin Otter reside at the Canadian Aviation Museum)

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Strangely enough Blair, I run ME and a 32MB PCI card, so with your system, I would say that sounds okay.BTW, I have an OMB sound card piece of junk that hurts my frame rates too. :-( I don;t know how much longer I can develop these aircraft on this 350mhz. :-)Oh, I might mention that the Lycoming GO-435 is a naturally aspirated 6-cyl engine running AVGAS and its sounds are a lot more like the Baron than the KA350. :-)Aaron Swindle has a beefed up Baron sound set available in the library if you want something a little different ... but keep fps in mind.Milton

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Thank you Andre for alerting me, and thanks to you and Scott for helping to "swarm the issue" and get it resolved.I just hate headlines like that. :-) Seems unfair.Milton

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RE..."Help - freeware commander broke FS!"Why would somebody head a forum discussion with something as stupid as this???!In all the years of simming, I have NEVER heard of an aircraft "BREAKING FS""!!You will not find ANY team...Freeware, OR payware, that will respond or reply to ANY issues faster or with more interest in solving any problems with thier work than this team has done and still does. If you will look over ALL the forums on the Commander, 99 percent of the issues are installation related. But we still address ALL concerns as though it might be a problem with our product, and do our VERY BEST to resolve these issues! Even when that 99 percent isnt any kind of a problem with our product!As you have since found...the Commander did not "BREAK yer FS".A retraction, or even an appology would be nice here!Scott Thomas"It must be understood, that we cannot build common sense into this Racer. That item must be included in the human components".............Racing industry quote

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I understand your point Scott, but there is a larger issue here.With the introduction of xml gauges being stored in .cab files, we in the FS community have a new issue to face.All of us are in the habit of unzipping files with zip icons and putting them where we know they go. No, we all do not read the manual. :-)Now, we must remember to pause, check instructions, determine IF the gauges.zip/cab must be unzipped or put in the FS2002/Gauges folder intact.I think it would be helpful if a front page article could help us all become more aware of this issue and hopefully alleviate some headaches for everyone who falls into this trap.Milton

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>RE... >>"Help - freeware commander broke FS!" >>Why would somebody head a forum discussion with something as >stupid as this???! >>In all the years of simming, I have NEVER heard of an >aircraft "BREAKING FS""!! >>You will not find ANY team...Freeware, OR payware, that will >respond or reply to ANY issues faster or with more interest >in solving any problems with thier work than this team has >done and still does. >>If you will look over ALL the forums on the Commander, 99 >percent of the issues are installation related. But we still >address ALL concerns as though it might be a problem with >our product, and do our VERY BEST to resolve these issues! >Even when that 99 percent isnt any kind of a problem with >our product! >>As you have since found...the Commander did not "BREAK yer >FS". >>A retraction, or even an appology would be nice here! >>Scott Thomas >>"It must be understood, that we cannot build common sense >into this Racer. That item must be included in the human >components" >>.............Racing industry quote FYI - it is working now, but I did NOT unzip the cab file into the directory I just left it intact. I am not sure what happened, but FS did not work at all. The program would crash mentioning that gauge file.I have been a computer programmer/network/database administrator for 7 years and counting, so I know how to get programs working. I also know how to debug programs, and tinker with them to get things working. Just because you have not seen something, does not mean it didn't happen. Unfortunately I did not take screen shots of it. I assumed this was the kind of place I could come and be taken on my word. I see I was wrong. On a brighter note, thanks to Andre and Milton for helping me almost immediately. Your aircraft is working now and it is a great plane. However, if there other types of posts are going to come up when I bring up a legitimate issue, I will find myself another place to find my flightsim information. I think others should get their facts straight first before attacking others.

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>>>>"Help - freeware commander broke FS!" >> I think others should get their facts straight >first before attacking others."Hi Craig,As a 35 year veteran of Information Systems myself, logic must prevail here.Neither you, we, nor the gauges were at fault here. Obviously the OPSys did something in the install process that caused it not to work. Generally, we have found that the .cab file sometimes gets extracted (or unzipped) into the gauge folder causing the issue.The topic heading obviously accuses the Commander of being the cause. Maybe your intent was to say "The Installation of the Commander resulted in FS being broke."Regardless, I am happy it is working for you now. Please do not judge the AVSIM forum or community and the wonderful people here by my responses or anyone elses. This is an awesome place to hang out. As with any community, there are a wide and varied set of personalities and maturity levels in the mix. Let's try for patience, tolerance, support and understanding. In that way, we all benefit.Milton

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If I install a file or package in to, a working, flight simulator and suddenly the sim stops working corestly, the obvious first potental culprit would be the file I installed. Second to that would be something else on my end weither it be my OS or VB runtime files or Direct X or one of many other things. I'm no IT profesional I'm known in my company as a "mechanic" I work with everything from shovels to cranes to computers to remotly operated robots to make repairs in environments not suitable for huumans. Mostly I make things work or creat the proses for something to be created. No matter what the "tool" is or the task, their is an order to solving any problems you run in to along the way. In short, he made an obvious asumption. Their was a direct relation to Flight sim working properly and the instalation of the Commander. Investigating the commander was the next logical step. I'm happy it worked out well in the end. Thank you Milton and crew for a plane I cant stop flying. And thanks for having such wonderful fast and responsive support.Ok :)deep breath; repeat "its just a sim, were here to have fun"Having FunGrey_Wolf

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