Hi am I missing something here or just going a little nuts? (entirely possible!)When I download a flight plan .pln flight from Simroutes, it comes in the following format;[flightplan]title=KJFK to EGLLdescription=KJFK, EGLLtype = IFRroutetype = 3cruising_altitude=0departure_id=KJFK, N40* 38.39', W73* 46.74', +000013.00destination_id=EGLL, N51* 28.65', W0* 27.68', +000080.00departure_name=New_York_John_F_Kennedy_Intldestination_name=Heathrowwaypoint.0=KJFK, A, N40* 38.39', W073* 46.74', +000000.00, waypoint.1=BETTE, I, N40* 33.55', W073* 00.70', +000000.00, waypoint.2=ACK, V, N41* 16.91', W070* 01.60', +000000.00, waypoint.3=TUSKY, I, N43* 33.90', W067* 00.00', +000000.00, waypoint.4=YQX, V, N48* 53.98', W054* 32.09', +000000.00, waypoint.5=KOBEV, I, N49* 40.20', W051* 28.00', +000000.00, etc, etc...When I create a flight plan with FS9.1 the format is slightly different;[flightplan]AppVersion=9.1.40901title=KJFK to CYQXdescription=KJFK, CYQXtype=IFRroutetype=3cruising_altitude=31000departure_id=KJFK, N40* 37.35', W73* 47.12', +000013.00departure_position=4Ldestination_id=CYQX, N48* 55.28', W54* 34.11', +000495.99departure_name=Kennedy Intldestination_name=Gander Intlwaypoint.0=, KJFK, , KJFK, A, N40* 37.35', W73* 47.12', +000013.00, waypoint.1=K6, HFD, , HFD, V, N41* 38.46', W72* 32.86', +000000.00, waypoint.2=K6, PUT, , PUT, V, N41* 57.33', W71* 50.65', +000000.00, J42waypoint.3=K6, BOS, , BOS, V, N42* 21.45', W70* 59.37', +000000.00, J42waypoint.4=K6, SCUPP, , SCUPP, I, N42* 36.18', W70* 13.82', +000000.00, J575waypoint.5=K6, CANAL, , CANAL, I, N42* 40.14', W70* 1.36', +000000.00, J575waypoint.6=CY, TUSKY, , TUSKY, I, N43* 33.90', W66* 59.97', +000000.00, J575 etc, etc...I have looked at some of the other flight plans for download on avsim and they are in the SimRoutes format, i.e, there is no flight center designator after the waypoint number and no" , , " with the waypoint name repeated???!!!The problem is, I can't load up a flight plan that is in the SimRoutes format in FS. I have to go in and manually edit the plan until the format is the same as the FS9 flight planner created one. In SimRoutes, I make sure that I have clicked on "FS2004(FS9)" before I download the plan.Is there something I can tweek to get FS9 to rune the SimRoutes .pln or, is there some sort of converter I can download to convert it into the new format. I am trying to create flight plans for the North Atlantic using Simroutes and Flightaware or else I would just use the flightsim flight planner.Cheers and frustrated,Nathan. :(

Is it just the difference between the way FS9 and FS9.1 creates .pln files.Is there anyway of converting them with manually editing them?Anyone??? Please???Nathan

Is it just the difference between the way FS9 and FS9.1 creates .pln files.Is there anyway of converting them with manually editing them?Anyone??? Please???Nathan

hi there,also had some troubles with simroutes in the past - if the plan doesn't load in fs, check if all waypoints are in the right order (sometimes simroutes does a wrong order, esp with long flightplans)..so bottom line, all waypoints must start from 0 and then ascend properly without interuptionwaypoint 0.waypoint 1.waypoint 2.etcsomtimes it looks like thiswaypoint 0.waypoint 1.waypoint 3.so, waypoint.2 is missing, therefore fs can not load the plan properly.just fix it by editing the flightplan via windows editor.hope, this helpscheersharald

hi there,also had some troubles with simroutes in the past - if the plan doesn't load in fs, check if all waypoints are in the right order (sometimes simroutes does a wrong order, esp with long flightplans)..so bottom line, all waypoints must start from 0 and then ascend properly without interuptionwaypoint 0.waypoint 1.waypoint 2.etcsomtimes it looks like thiswaypoint 0.waypoint 1.waypoint 3.so, waypoint.2 is missing, therefore fs can not load the plan properly.just fix it by editing the flightplan via windows editor.hope, this helpscheersharald

ok, here is the solution for this plan:[flightplan]title=EGLL to KJFKdescription=EGLL, KJFKtype = IFRroutetype = 3cruising_altitude=0departure_id=EGLL, N51* 28.65', W0* 27.68', +000080.00destination_id=KJFK, N40* 38.39', W73* 46.74', +000013.00departure_name=Heathrowdestination_name=New_York_John_F_Kennedy_Intlwaypoint.0=EGLL, A, N51* 28.65', W000* 27.68', +000000.00, waypoint.1=CPT, V, N51* 29.50', W001* 13.18', +000000.00, waypoint.2=KENET, I, N51* 31.23', W001* 27.30', +000000.00, UL9waypoint.3=BASET, I, N51* 33.83', W001* 42.60', +000000.00, UL9waypoint.4=DIKAS, I, N51* 46.62', W003* 15.55', +000000.00, UL9waypoint.5=STU, V, N51* 59.68', W005* 02.42', +000000.00, UL9waypoint.6=BANBA, I, N51* 57.17', W006* 14.35', +000000.00, UL175waypoint.7=NEXAT, I, N51* 56.33', W006* 34.53', +000000.00, UL175waypoint.8=CRK, V, N51* 50.44', W008* 29.66', +000000.00, UL175waypoint.9=DOLIP, I, N52* 00.00', W012* 00.00', +000000.00, UN523waypoint.10=LIMRI, I, N52* 00.00', W015* 00.00', +000000.00, UN523waypoint.12=YYT, V, N47* 29.13', W052* 51.14', +000000.00, waypoint.13=ATLAN, I, N46* 45.60', W057* 06.93', +000000.00, V312waypoint.14=YQY, V, N46* 09.20', W060* 03.35', +000000.00, V312waypoint.15=YYG, V, N46* 17.85', W063* 07.18', +000000.00, V312waypoint.16=YSJ, V, N45* 24.43', W065* 52.25', +000000.00, J573waypoint.17=EBONY, I, N44* 54.14', W067* 09.39', +000000.00, J573waypoint.18=SEAER, I, N43* 55.47', W069* 29.51', +000000.00, J573waypoint.19=SCARS, I, N43* 32.92', W070* 20.46', +000000.00, J573waypoint.20=ENE, V, N43* 25.54', W070* 36.81', +000000.00, J573waypoint.21=KJFK, A, N40* 38.39', W073* 46.74', +000000.00, waypoint 11 is missing or not in order there fore the plan doent load properlysimple edit es follows:[flightplan]title=EGLL to KJFKdescription=EGLL, KJFKtype = IFRroutetype = 3cruising_altitude=0departure_id=EGLL, N51* 28.65', W0* 27.68', +000080.00destination_id=KJFK, N40* 38.39', W73* 46.74', +000013.00departure_name=Heathrowdestination_name=New_York_John_F_Kennedy_Intlwaypoint.0=EGLL, A, N51* 28.65', W000* 27.68', +000000.00, waypoint.1=CPT, V, N51* 29.50', W001* 13.18', +000000.00, waypoint.2=KENET, I, N51* 31.23', W001* 27.30', +000000.00, UL9waypoint.3=BASET, I, N51* 33.83', W001* 42.60', +000000.00, UL9waypoint.4=DIKAS, I, N51* 46.62', W003* 15.55', +000000.00, UL9waypoint.5=STU, V, N51* 59.68', W005* 02.42', +000000.00, UL9waypoint.6=BANBA, I, N51* 57.17', W006* 14.35', +000000.00, UL175waypoint.7=NEXAT, I, N51* 56.33', W006* 34.53', +000000.00, UL175waypoint.8=CRK, V, N51* 50.44', W008* 29.66', +000000.00, UL175waypoint.9=DOLIP, I, N52* 00.00', W012* 00.00', +000000.00, UN523waypoint.10=LIMRI, I, N52* 00.00', W015* 00.00', +000000.00, UN523waypoint.11=YYT, V, N47* 29.13', W052* 51.14', +000000.00, waypoint.12=ATLAN, I, N46* 45.60', W057* 06.93', +000000.00, V312waypoint.13=YQY, V, N46* 09.20', W060* 03.35', +000000.00, V312waypoint.14=YYG, V, N46* 17.85', W063* 07.18', +000000.00, V312waypoint.15=YSJ, V, N45* 24.43', W065* 52.25', +000000.00, J573waypoint.16=EBONY, I, N44* 54.14', W067* 09.39', +000000.00, J573waypoint.17=SEAER, I, N43* 55.47', W069* 29.51', +000000.00, J573waypoint.18=SCARS, I, N43* 32.92', W070* 20.46', +000000.00, J573waypoint.19=ENE, V, N43* 25.54', W070* 36.81', +000000.00, J573waypoint.20=KJFK, A, N40* 38.39', W073* 46.74', +000000.00, save the plan and load into fs thats it!cheersharald