June 13, 200916 yr Hi, just done a flight to LPPT from ESSA and using the internal fsx atis I had landing winds reported as 245/45.... ASA was showing 330/16 (was ok in previous builds). Makes it rather hard to make a landing on the correct runway if fsx is altering itself to comply with the reported winds at altitude.Also noticed the wind swings are still there (dwc enabled) as are the variance, one moment 8knots then next 65knots and swings of around 30degrees.Seems if there are any stations reporting non or odd weather they still get used in the wind calculations.John E
June 13, 200916 yr Hi John,When ASA and FS were fully loaded, did you click on the Refresh AI Traffic Icon? If you don't do this, ATIS may be directing you and AI traffic wrong.Default plane and no FSUIPC settings with the wind swings?We can't program data to be filtered out, because ASA doesn't know if it is correct or not. It has to take the data given and use it, treating it as correct. We rely on the station reports to be as accurate as they can be.Thanks,
June 13, 200916 yr Author Yep, did all that Jim. I usually load up, wait till it settles then load the flightplan. Do all my adjustments for wind, fuel, etc then go back and refresh AI after that. Takes me a while to get ready lol.The issue was not takeoff anyway but the landing scenario... I even had atis at LFPG reporting winds of 65knots (same as what my headwind was at 35000ft). This was in the fsx atis, not the asa one by the way. Don't know if this is a one off due to memory or whatever but I'll do another tomorrow and see if it is the same.I'll tack it on the end of this post if it is.. or even if not. Not the default plane... pmdg747x and no fsuipc settings, just turbulence off in fsx.I know you can't 'filter' the stations out and I even see by moving around in ASA that very close stations are reporting dissimilar weather and cloud cover/heights. Good job it isn't easy else everyone could do it lol.I did manage a long haul trans-atlantic flight without too many issues (yep the odd wander and wobble for 50 mile stretches but overall pretty good for the pmdg model) Too many stations perhaps!!!! just a thought.John E
June 14, 200916 yr Hi,OK, please refer to the Revisions text as there are some settings that you can make for PMDG.Thanks,
June 14, 200916 yr Author Same issue Jim. did a short default aircraft in fsx flight and atis at nearest airports reporting windspeed and direction same as the flying windspeed and direction.PFD in default airbus showing 224/38 at 37000ft and all nearest airports reporting runways as windspeed 224/38 as well so something has gone awry with the connection to fsx unless you can suggest a setting I might have wrong!!!!!!!!!John E
June 14, 200916 yr im sitting here at SKBO and its nothing but clear skies showing. this is ridiculous. What ever was changed to fix the PMDG problems has now caused absolutely ZERO correct depiction. unbelievable how frustrating this is
June 14, 200916 yr Author Addemdum to above post, just did the same flight using default fsx so winds 270/25 at altitude and atis gives winds calm for nearest airports so definately asa doing something odd.frustrating.John E
June 14, 200916 yr Hi John,On your Briefing Screen is the Show Surface Wind Info....... box checked On or Off?Thanks,
June 15, 200916 yr Author Box is ticked [ on ] Jim - Works fine prior to takeoff, I get the surface wind then it's just when aloft fsx atis reports the aloft wind rather than surface windspeed/direction.Suppose I should try it in the voice report via the comms (120 ish) to see if that does say different.Only thing I haven't tried is using it in fs9 mode to see if I have the same issue with that one - only used b341 in fsx so far as I know the prior beta worked a treat for me in so hopefully it still does lol.John E
June 16, 200916 yr John,Are you manually refreshing the AI using the icon in ASA, after FSX is fully loaded?Thanks,
June 16, 200916 yr Author Yep, manually refreshing AI for sure. As I said, no issue when on the ground, windspeed and direction ok, AI using the 'proper' runways, etc. It is ONLY in flight that I have fsx atis reporting windspeed and directions at airports the same as windspeed and direction at the flight level I am at.Open ASA and the nearest airport shows something like wind 330 @ 3 knots but fsx atis reporting 150 at 80 knots. A bit of a bummer if that is the airport you're trying to land at as you get directed to the wrong runway. Was ok with the previous beta.(Still issues with windshifts and speeds but I know that ain't easy to settle having to interface with the 'joyful' fsx weather engine)Did a check using fsx 'real weather' and have no issues using that as regards atis reports.John E
June 17, 200916 yr Author Cheers Jim and just to let you know - ASA behaves properly in the same situation using fs9 as does the weather :( John E
June 17, 200916 yr Yep, manually refreshing AI for sure. As I said, no issue when on the ground, windspeed and direction ok, AI using the 'proper' runways, etc. It is ONLY in flight that I have fsx atis reporting windspeed and directions at airports the same as windspeed and direction at the flight level I am at.Open ASA and the nearest airport shows something like wind 330 @ 3 knots but fsx atis reporting 150 at 80 knots. A bit of a bummer if that is the airport you're trying to land at as you get directed to the wrong runway. Was ok with the previous beta.(Still issues with windshifts and speeds but I know that ain't easy to settle having to interface with the 'joyful' fsx weather engine)Did a check using fsx 'real weather' and have no issues using that as regards atis reports.John ESame situation here, FSX, and DWC on, no FSUIPC settings. Wind speed and direction reported in FSX ATIS change as you approach the ground, like if it was reporting the current wind at altitude.Fede Federico Bellato
June 19, 200916 yr Hello, I use the current 314 beta build with FSX sp2 with the levelD 767 and PMDG md11 & 747. I followed the recommendations regarding wind shift stabilization in the "latest revisions" document included in beta 314 asking the user to turn off all FSUIPC and FSX Turbulence settings, and just use DWC global weather smoothing, as well as adjusting the FSUIPC ini/FSX.cfg settings per the document.I am getting the same issues as reported by the users above regarding ATIS relying on the current reported altitude winds/temps of the user aircraft for the surface weather reports. This is a big concern, because ATIS will decide the active landing runway based on the altitude of the user a/c, not the real ground surface weather. I do use the the voice atis/flightwatch freq of 122.00 to get the real weather on the ground at the destination airport, but alas, the FSX ATIS is helpful for letting you know which runway(s) are in use and it is not fun with AI aircraft utilizing the wrong runways.On a related note, because of the ATIS reporting cruise level weather on the ground, a/c of the ground taxing at any airport have contrails forming, which is very unpleasant to see. No doubt it happens because the ground atis stations are reporting the -20 or below temps prevalent at cruise levels in jets. It would be super if this scenario gets worked out, because i'd really like to use DWC vs fsx weather. Otherwise, I find that turning off DWC and using the wind/pressure smoothing of FSUIPC works great without any of the annoying issues present in the current DWC mode. Would these issues be resolved if I left DWC enabled and activate FSUIPC wind smoothing and pressure smoothing? Currently, I turned off all the FSUIPC smoothing options.Thank you for your attention, I hope this issue gets resolved in the next build.A.J. A.J. Domingo
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