I've been trying for 4 hours with NO luck.... UNCLE !! Would someone PLEASE take a look at my panel.cfg and tell me what I'm doing wrong. I'm trying to install a HSI (Horozonal Situation Indicator) gauge that will UNDOCK so that I can drag it over onto my Old Style DH-2 Beaver VERTUIAL cockpit. I know how and I have installed a Garmin -500 GPS and a Cessna 182 "Radio stack" that will UNDOCK. All of the HSI gauges that I can find are part of a "Mini Panel" and I don't know how to cut out just the HSI gauge and get it to where it will UNDOCK.Please take a look at my inclosures below and see if you can help me. Thanks jerrycwo4P.S. The "system" will not let me UPLOAD the panel.cfg I'll have to figgure out another way to show it. When I right click on teh HSI and select UNDOCK, all of the area within the yellow border becomes BLACK and the gauge is NOT undocked

The standard 'gaugeXX=' line *should* work as that HSI appears to be a default gauge. Can you cut'n'paste that section of your panel.cfg file into here? Unless someone else comes up with an answer meantime, I'll have a go using that mini-panel when I get home tonight.-Dai

The standard 'gaugeXX=' line *should* work as that HSI appears to be a default gauge. Can you cut'n'paste that section of your panel.cfg file into here? Unless someone else comes up with an answer meantime, I'll have a go using that mini-panel when I get home tonight.-Dai

Thanks for the reply. I'll try to "cut/paste" the panel.cfg here so you can see all of it . I've had this panel.cfg 15 differant ways but nothing has worked. When I get my 3- 26" screens just like I want them with the Old Stlye DH-2 Beaver Vitural panel, and I have to switch back to the normal 2-D panel to change my heading, it messes up my Vertual panel when I go back to it. If I could DRAG a HSI gauge over onto the Vetural cockpit I would not have to go back to the 2-D panel and redo the vertual panel just to change my heading. Thanks jerrycwo4

To create any kind of "popup, undockable" panel, all you need to do is create a new [WindowXX] entry, such as the following:

[Window Titles]Windownn=HSI Popup//--------------------------------------------------------[Window02]Background_color=0,0,0 size_mm=277,278window_size_ratio=1.000  position=0visible=0ident=30window_size= 0.277, 0.278window_pos= 0.257, 0.430zorder=5gauge00=Beech_Baron!Horizontal Situation Indicator,   0,0,277,278

Oh yes... You don't UPLOAD anything here other than images. If you wish to copy/paste text, simply paste it in the message, highlight it, then click on the "Wrap in code tags" icon (furthest right in the menu above the editor window, and the opposite end from the b icon... :(

Hi Bill Like you, this is what I think Jerry may be doing wrong..... his panel.cfg file will confirm (or deny!) it.-Dai

To create any kind of "popup, undockable" panel, all you need to do is create a new [WindowXX] entry, such as the following:

[Window Titles]Windownn=HSI Popup//--------------------------------------------------------[Window02]Background_color=0,0,0 size_mm=277,278window_size_ratio=1.000  position=0visible=0ident=30window_size= 0.277, 0.278window_pos= 0.257, 0.430zorder=5gauge00=Beech_Baron!Horizontal Situation Indicator,   0,0,277,278

Oh yes... You don't UPLOAD anything here other than images. If you wish to copy/paste text, simply paste it in the message, highlight it, then click on the "Wrap in code tags" icon (furthest right in the menu above the editor window, and the opposite end from the b icon... :([Window Titles]Window00=Modern Style Panel FullWindow01=Modern Style Panel LoweredWindow02=Zoomed RPM & ManifoldWindow03=Trim DisplayWindow04=GPSWindow05=HSI//---------------------------Thanks for the info guys. A kind flightsimmer on the FS2004 forum gave me the fix (see below). What can you do, if anything if you have used all of the numbers 1-9 in the WINDOW section of the panel.cfg ?? I understand that the gauge MUST be in a "window" section to be able to UNDOCK it. Is this correct ? I have learned what I know about changing and installing gauges into aircraft purley by trail and error and many, many hours of doing it. I'd like to learn a lot more. Is there a good "instruction" somewhere in learning to "edit" gauges in panels? Thanks for your help. jerrycwo4[Window05]Background_color=0,0,0 size_mm=186,176window_size_ratio=1.000 position=2visible=0ident=5gauge00=Mooney_Bravo!HSI,0,0,186,176

Jerry, if you are ALWAYS going to "undock" the window, simply change the flag in the [Windownn] declaration, especially if the new Window is not in the 1-9 range:[Window10]Background_color=0,0,0 size_mm=186,176window_size_ratio=1.000 position=2visible=1 // default is 0, 1 causes the window to always be OPEN on panel load.ident=5gauge00=Mooney_Bravo!HSI,0,0,186,176XML gauges are "editable" and there's a great deal of information available. Check out http:fs2x.com in the Tutorials section for a good starting point for learning.Also, if you really intend to work with panels and configurations, then an investment in FS Panel Studio* would be the best $30 you've ever spent... :( * http://www.fspanelstudio.com

I agree with Bill about Panel Sudio for moving gauges around. There's also my (very) old panel.cfg tutorial on flightsim.com (search panelcf2.zip). It doesn't cover everything in FSX (or FS9) but it's a start.If your window is not in the 1-9 range, FS allows a user (custom) range of 10000 upwards. Just use any one of these numbers instead.-Dai

...of course those numbers aren't "keyboard assignable..."Actually, you can use any number you wish, provided it's not one of the "reserved id numbers." :(

But real simmers don't use the keyboard. :( -Dai(P.S. Jerry - sorry for hi-jacking your thread).