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Challenge response termination checklist items missing

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Dear reader,A few weeks ago I bought FS2CREW for the PMDG 737NG (fs9) and I love to fly with it as it makes it much more realistic and more according to real live crew resource management.As I usally only have time for one flight....I end up going through the termination checklist with Jim. As in real live there is no flow, he reads and I do. Though he really takes good care of me during the whole flight this is where he gets a bit eager to go off as he skips half the things we have to do according to the checklist (Window heat, Packs, APU bleed and the lights).Would there be a way to train him to focus on the job, also during the last minutes? :( Otherwise as said a very nice add-on and good for many nice flights.Regards,Daniel Bazuin

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Dear reader,A few weeks ago I bought FS2CREW for the PMDG 737NG (fs9) and I love to fly with it as it makes it much more realistic and more according to real live crew resource management.As I usally only have time for one flight....I end up going through the termination checklist with Jim. As in real live there is no flow, he reads and I do. Though he really takes good care of me during the whole flight this is where he gets a bit eager to go off as he skips half the things we have to do according to the checklist (Window heat, Packs, APU bleed and the lights).Would there be a way to train him to focus on the job, also during the last minutes? :( Otherwise as said a very nice add-on and good for many nice flights.Regards,Daniel Bazuin
Hi Daniel,Have you cross checked what the FO is supposed to do in the manual? In particular in the 'flows' section.Remember that you and the FO split the workload. The FO only flips switches that are part of his particular flow. Other switches, etc., fall under your area of responsibility.Cheers,

Hi Bryan,Yes, I have. Here is a small excerpt from flows PDF:

Termination

There is no flow associated with the Termination Checklist. The Termination checklist is done as "Read and Do."

As the FO skips 4 items from this checklist the captain has to fill in the blanks for him, which is a bit unrealistic. I am thinking to sent him out of the cockpit after the parking checklist - to see how our passengers survived our landing - and just go over the termination checklist myself. If you have a means to correct this it would of course be highly appreciated. :( As for your last sentence, I am no 737 driver and am not sure if the FO would also flip switches when he reads this particular checklist, then it would be something like: Windows heat -> FO flips the switches -> FO confirms offBest regards,Daniel Bazuin

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Hi Bryan,Yes, I have. Here is a small excerpt from flows PDF:

Termination

�� There is no flow associated with the Termination Checklist. The Termination checklist is done as "Read and Do."

As the FO skips 4 items from this checklist the captain has to fill in the blanks for him, which is a bit unrealistic. I am thinking to sent him out of the cockpit after the parking checklist - to see how our passengers survived our landing - and just go over the termination checklist myself. If you have a means to correct this it would of course be highly appreciated. :( As for your last sentence, I am no 737 driver and am not sure if the FO would also flip switches when he reads this particular checklist, then it would be something like: Windows heat -> FO flips the switches -> FO confirms offBest regards,Daniel Bazuin

Hi Daniel,We used a real airline manual for the procedures. Let me take a look at the manual.Best,
  • 1 year later...
Hi Daniel,We used a real airline manual for the procedures. Let me take a look at the manual.Best,
Bryan, After a long time of no flying I started again now and found that there is no problem with this check list whatsoever. Just needed to realize that the upper green button has a purpose too..Best regards,Daniel

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