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Braking action with CH Rudder Pedals

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I've cranked the sensitivity of right/left axis braking within FS9 menu for CH Rudder Pedals to max but during rollout on the runway (on speed landing etc), I can't brake enough (toe brakes are depressed all the way) to achieve a safe taxi speed (less than 20knots)...throttles are full idle and reversers work fine...what's the best way to set braking on CH rudders? I have registered FSUIPC and currently have right/left braking axis assigned within FS9 only. If it makes any difference, I was flying Maddog MD-80.ThanksRich Perry

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I've cranked the sensitivity of right/left axis braking within FS9 menu for CH Rudder Pedals to max but during rollout on the runway (on speed landing etc), I can't brake enough (toe brakes are depressed all the way) to achieve a safe taxi speed (less than 20knots)...throttles are full idle and reversers work fine...what's the best way to set braking on CH rudders? I have registered FSUIPC and currently have right/left braking axis assigned within FS9 only. If it makes any difference, I was flying Maddog MD-80.ThanksRich Perry
Kemo--use FSUIPC's calibration feature to make sure that you're getting full braking at a point short of max throw on the pedals. Sounds to me like the raw axis values are not covering the full range of 0-16383 like they should.You can use the logging feature of FSUIPC to watch the actual brake application values...go to the logging tab in FSUIPC, and enter 0BC4 (left) and/or 0BC6 (right) in the offset boxes, and select type U16 from the dropdown box(es). Check ADVDISP and the values will appear in a green box in the sim. With full brakes you should see 16383 at both offsets.CheersBob ScottColonel, USAF (ret)ATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-VColorado Springs, CO

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Kemo--use FSUIPC's calibration feature to make sure that you're getting full braking at a point short of max throw on the pedals. Sounds to me like the raw axis values are not covering the full range of 0-16383 like they should.You can use the logging feature of FSUIPC to watch the actual brake application values...go to the logging tab in FSUIPC, and enter 0BC4 (left) and/or 0BC6 (right) in the offset boxes, and select type U16 from the dropdown box(es). Check ADVDISP and the values will appear in a green box in the sim. With full brakes you should see 16383 at both offsets.CheersBob ScottColonel, USAF (ret)ATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-VColorado Springs, CO
Copy all Bob...thanks...BTW, I should have listened to your advice on the yoke...I went with Saitek Pro Yoke System...and for a guy who has flown with a stick all my career (with the exception of single engine land in a Piper)...it was less than optimum...some was likely PIO and practice...but saitek has a centering spring, which is ok for level flight, but when you're attempting to make minor pitch corrections, you go from the spring centered range rapidly into pitch. Bottom line, I did not like the feel...and I used FSUIPC to setup all the axis etc and tweaked the sensitivity/null a bunch of times. I'm sending it back to amazon and will likely go with precision flight yoke and eventually twin jet throttle system. I recall you mentioned you're running with the full floor yoke? Kemo

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Kemo;I have a friend here with the Saitek yoke, and it's been giving him nothing but a** pain since he got it.I'm using the PFC "Jetliner" yoke, throttle quad, and the "special" version of the Cirrus pedals that has a base that dovetails into the yoke. Had it since 2002.If you get their throttle quad, you might want to consider getting the 4-throttle quad vs the twin. If you ever fly the MD-11, 747, C-130 etc, having the 4-lever is nice. 3-engine birds like the 727 & MD-11 are awkward on two throttle levers. I started with the twin, then bought the turboprop, then I ended up mixing and matching the levers so that I have a 4-throttle system with reverser lever between throttles 2-3 and speed brake on the right. But if I had it to do over, I'd just get the 4-engine jet quad.CheersBob ScottColonel, USAF (ret)ATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-VColorado Springs, CO

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Kemo;I have a friend here with the Saitek yoke, and it's been giving him nothing but a** pain since he got it.I'm using the PFC "Jetliner" yoke, throttle quad, and the "special" version of the Cirrus pedals that has a base that dovetails into the yoke. Had it since 2002.If you get their throttle quad, you might want to consider getting the 4-throttle quad vs the twin. If you ever fly the MD-11, 747, C-130 etc, having the 4-lever is nice. 3-engine birds like the 727 & MD-11 are awkward on two throttle levers. I started with the twin, then bought the turboprop, then I ended up mixing and matching the levers so that I have a 4-throttle system with reverser lever between throttles 2-3 and speed brake on the right. But if I had it to do over, I'd just get the 4-engine jet quad.CheersBob ScottColonel, USAF (ret)ATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-VColorado Springs, CO
Bob...sounds like a plan. Now I just need CINCHOME to approve the appropriation. Did have a follow on question on the CH Rudder Pedals braking. I configured via FSUIPC and am seeing 16380ish on both left and right brake. However, I noticed merely putting your feet on the pedals for rudder action causes some level of braking. What setting do you use for min?...I set about 13000 on each side...but I'm still getting braking when I simply use the pedal without depressing toe brake--and therefore use a higher power setting during taxi. Is there some way to eliminate that and only get braking when you're actually depressing the pedal?ThanksKemo

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