Everyone know what a pain it is to manually type in all the waypoints from A to B on a long flight .Which is why we have route finder. Enter the ICAO codes and it find all the legs for you but most importantly at the bottom is an abbreviated version of the route which shows the airways as well as the the legs. Instead of entering 30 waypoints into the FMC on a long flight we go to the RTE page and select the first way point on the right with DCT for direct on the left. Airways on the left and where that airways finished on the right. Simple - no! not always! Often depending on the AIRAC cyle some airways are missing and so are some waypoints. It can be come a very frustrating exercise and updating the AIRAC cycle even more soThis is where Sim routes comes in. Enter the ICAO codes as in route finder and the destination of course and then paste that that abbreviated airways synopsis from route finder into the route section on that page. Then select your aircraft and save the plan to the folder where the NAVDATA or Flightplans for that make is kept. It can use the Airac 0711 cycle amongst others same as the PMDG aircraft. Save to the NAVDATA /Flighplans folder under PMDG under Flighsim 9 etc.Trouble is it all loads up on PMDG aircraft FMCs (747/737 for fs9) but the arrivals don't. So no runways to fly to no STARS, nothing but the last waypoint which can be up to 40NM away from the airfield.I only have this problem with the PMDG products - the LDS 767 works fine. Any ideas - it is such a great utility otherwise. I know the PMDg products have a vast library of routes but sometimes I want to go somewhere else and this could make it so much easier. SIm Routes even gives you a flight plan map plus the weather.linkshttp://www.simroutes.com/fb2/details.aspxhttp://rfinder.asalink.net/free/Gerry

I may not be understanding your question completely (but I'm not the brightest start in the nite sky).Sounds like you need a good set of charts. Most routes end at the appropriate STAR and then you follow that in to the appropriate or active runway.You need to add your SID/STAR after you load your route into the FMC and then "transition" on to your route or off your route to the SID for example.Am I making any sense? :(

I may not be understanding your question completely (but I'm not the brightest start in the nite sky).Sounds like you need a good set of charts. Most routes end at the appropriate STAR and then you follow that in to the appropriate or active runway.You need to add your SID/STAR after you load your route into the FMC and then "transition" on to your route or off your route to the SID for example.Am I making any sense? :(

Thanks for the prompt reply and yes, that does make sense. I was hoping however not to have to buy a world wide set of charts if I could manage to do it via those two websites. I just flew from Delhi to Tashkent in an Air Canada 767 (love your old colour scheme) and when the route was inserted into the the co-route on the POS page everything was there including Tashkent's runways. Perfectly normal flight except for trying to find a park amonst all those old TU-154s of Uzbekistan Airways. I flew on one of those last year - only ac I ever flew on that was graffitied on the inside. Tried the same flight with the PMDG 747 and the route loads with all the legs but no destination runways. I just wonder if there is a way to fix that.Gerry