February 18, 201016 yr QPI Differential is common knowledge, and should be part of any serious I7 over-clocking attempt or else you can fry the IMC.As far as that degree, yeah you should turn it in because you got ripped off.Yeah, unfortunately it is common knowledge among "serious overclockers" :( - one of the many oddball, misleading, not-the-whole-story, placebo, or flat-out wrong 'fixes' peppering these posts. It'd be comical if you weren't actively causing real people harm to their systems with these screwball 'tweaks'. They just want to fly as smoothly as they can with their kit.Please, please :( stop spewing this nonsense to people who are looking for straightforward advice, for folks who just want to help their setup perform a little better under FSX (or whatever).Cheers! :(
February 18, 201016 yr Gee, thanks for the...um "lesson"(?) :( I must be in an alternate universe here..."keeping VTT/QPI 'in balance' with dram voltage"?..."within .35-.5 of dram v"? Huh? And WHAT heat at 1.65v?? There isn't any anymore! There's more bandwidth being available within the X58 memory architecture unused for ridiculously tight timings to make ANY real-world difference in an app (particularly FSX or any sim which, I presume, this Avsim-deal is all about).Must be me - I'd better turn in the ol' EE/Comp M.Eng degree and going flight simming full-time! Word Not Allowed, you've got a great bit of kit - have fun with it - FSX will absolutely scream. I'd personally (IMHO and all that) steer clear of the "blue smoke and bulls*^t" of keeping QPI and dram "in balance."I'm off to the planet earth in my PMDG 747! SK8TRBOI747 - Out. :(As an example XMP profiles on 2000 speed memory will automatically boost QPI voltage, sometimes as high as 1.6v (QPI/VTT not Dram) and maybe even more on the even faster 2200-2400 stuff, since we are talking about manual adjustments QPI can be kept in check manually.That it and the IMC heat is beyond your ability to understand I think you have made clear. There are plenty of others who enjoy thoughtful intelligent conversation, since you unsuccessfully tried to involve yourself in the discusion I mistook you for one of them.
February 18, 201016 yr Ok guys, time to put a stop to this.I never intended this thread to go into these waters. As I said in some post, I'm not interested into Overclocking-Degree, but rather want to successfully and without worry overclock to 4.2. That was THE reason I got this board. All other reasons are "nice that they come along".If you wish to lead such discussions about "hot IMC or what not", please take it somewhere else. I have no idea what you are talking about... I was actually looking for an advice what the best settings would be, and seemingly, I still didn't get them.Paul, you said something many posts ago, you would have some advices for me what to set, if even change anything? As of my last post, things are running very smoothly and without a single crash.As for djt01's post about FSX not screaming - that is in my opinion just a load of something. As usual, a completely useless pessimistic post.Actually, I am very happy, in comparison to the old machine, how FSX runs, without many tweaks, actually none except Buferpools 0 (just tried that). I could even say it screams, as I get mostly 30fps out of it, even with very heavy cloud coverage in the VC of the PMDG 747. Yet testing continues...My FS9 is performing well, as usual. Did also on the old machine...My interest in the end, is finish up the hardware part, know it's working well, and just enjoy my games and simming - I don't enjoy endlessly tweaking the BIOS.
February 18, 201016 yr As for djt01's post about FSX not screaming - that is in my opinion just a load of something. As usual, a completely useless pessimistic post.I could even say it screams, as I get mostly 40fps out of itOh no the world might end, someone actually mentioned the obvious, FSX
February 18, 201016 yr If you wish to discuss these things, please open your own thread. Thank you.There
February 19, 201016 yr Word Not Allowed,In CPU-Z there is a "SPD" tab, can you please post a shot of yours.Also post your NB temps at idle and under load as well as ambiant / case temps if you can.Thanks
February 19, 201016 yr Word Not Allowed,In CPU-Z there is a "SPD" tab, can you please post a shot of yours.Also post your NB temps at idle and under load as well as ambiant / case temps if you can.ThanksI don't read out the NB temps. I used to read that with Everest I think. Now doesn't show, at least I can't find it. ProbeII only reads CPU/MB, same as Everest, which are:Idle:41/41, ambient 23cLoad:CoreTemp: 66-73 (ProbeII reports 72c at load, when CoreTemp reports 70c), depending how long I run it, without the GPU, 72-78 along with the GPU at full load according to GPU-Z (using a GPU Test with the flying balls) for about two hours (keeping the room temp at about 24c) - please consider these are the hardest tests I could find, slamming all togetherProbeII, MB Temp: doesn't change much, idle 41c, very big load up to 43c
February 19, 201016 yr I don't read out the NB temps. I used to read that with Everest I think. Now doesn't show, at least I can't find it. ProbeII only reads CPU/MB, same as Everest, which are:Idle:41/41, ambient 23cLoad:CoreTemp: 66-73 (ProbeII reports 72c at load, when CoreTemp reports 70c), depending how long I run it, without the GPU, 72-78 along with the GPU at full load according to GPU-Z (using a GPU Test with the flying balls) for about two hours (keeping the room temp at about 24c) - please consider these are the hardest tests I could find, slamming all togetherProbeII, MB Temp: doesn't change much, idle 41c, very big load up to 43cWord Not Allowed, the "SPD" tab just gives the brand/size of your memory and a table of what the mfg is claiming the timings would be under different voltages, etc. It does not show anything about how fast your memory is actually running - nor does it show your current timings - on your rig. That page is simply 'table'. Under 'Memory' tab you'll find what's actually going on in your system, i.e., what speeds, timings, etc. you are running.Your temperatures sound fine.Just fyi.Cheers!
February 19, 201016 yr Word Not Allowed, the "SPD" tab just gives the brand/size of your memory and a table of what the mfg is claiming the timings would be under different voltages, etc. It does not show anything about how fast your memory is actually running - nor does it show your current timings - on your rig. That page is simply 'table'. Under 'Memory' tab you'll find what's actually going on in your system, i.e., what speeds, timings, etc. you are running.Your temperatures sound fine.Just fyi.Cheers!Yeah, I know what SPD is. I only wondered why Paul wanted to know the SPD.
February 19, 201016 yr Yeah, I know what SPD is. I only wondered why Paul wanted to know the SPD.Hi Word Not Allowed,We could care less about "what the current timings" are, since those have all ready been posted and tell us nothing about the ram other than the obvious.Getting a look at that SPD tab just lets us see exactly what the XMP and spd profiles read, so we can see what capabilities are actually there with that ram and will provide us some approximations of how far we can go and where, which unfortunately is not very much as far as that ram goes, it would be best to be able to hit at least CL6 @1600 but for FSX its probably ok for now.A better and more usful tool is "CPU-tweak" which also reads all the sub-timmings from the BIOS in the spd profiles if you ever get the itch to fine tune it comes in handy.I must have missed that you are having the BIOS read the XMP profile or did you enter the timmings yourself?This thing has been running 24/7 for a couple of weeks crunching geotifs for a scenery project, I have to save and shut something's down, will reboot and take some pix of the BIOS and get back to you today.Which BIOS you running?
February 19, 201016 yr Which BIOS you running?Hi Paul,It's the latest 0702, and the BIOS is I think reading the XMP profile... I'll doublecheck that later. I tried also manually setting it, since I obviously saw no difference, I let it do automatically.
February 19, 201016 yr Hi Paul,It's the latest 0702, and the BIOS is I think reading the XMP profile... I'll doublecheck that later. I tried also manually setting it, since I obviously saw no difference, I let it do automatically.If XPM, take a look to see if it has left QPI volts at stock or what it has been set to.
February 19, 201016 yr If XPM, take a look to see if it has left QPI volts at stock or what it has been set to.If set to XMP, it changes automatically the QPI/DRAM Core Voltage to 1.35.
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