Which one is the most accurate? Both found here : http://www.flightsim.com/file.php. Does v2.0 ( aa12fdv2.zip) include stuff in 120fdeaa.zip? Or does v2.0 only update what is written there?Please reply, I need to know for my EMB-120.Help much appreciated, thx

I haven't checked out either (but thanks for the mention now I can have a good EMB-120) but v2.0 is likely to be the equivalent of 120fdeaa.zip but with the mentioned updates added into the file. So I would venture to say that v2.0 is more accurate considering it corrects fuel flow, weight, and climb speeds.

Nandan,Those 'merge' of FDE's (what ever the heck THAT means) are dated 2007 (and are meant to modify 2004 files, originally by Eric Cantu). I get a kick out of seeing a simmer that doesn't know anything about FDE's go on the internet and get the 'real' specs then 'merge' them in sim cfg and/or air file. He will enter the 'specs' in cfg file (commented out). Those type of 'FDE GURU' (ha) WILL have a 'version 2', 'version 3', etc. Untill some 'friend' advices him to quit, where you won't EVER hear from him again. (Fuel flow is NOT 'FDEs'). Throttle and vert speed is PILOT CONTROLED and not FDE controled. See my point? Bogus. But, what can you do.Here is extent of mods and/or difference between zip files as far as cfg is concerned (ie: fuel flow): These are the 'changes' from one zip to next. (Both are wrong IMHO).[GeneralEngineData]fuel_flow_scalar=0.75 //(changed to this: fuel_flow_scalar=1.15)[TurbineEngineData]fuel_flow_gain=0.009 //(changed to this: fuel_flow_gain=0.035)Mr Alves does mainly AI flight plans and occasional repaint (usually payware). A FDE Guru he is not. Big Phoney Buzzard, yes. It's really sad.CBNapamule

Adding to what napamule is saying the fuel flow, vertical speed, etc. is not directly controlled by FDE (flight dynamic... something?...) but if the aircraft.cfg is completely incorrect then that may affect your fuel flow or other aspects. As a side note that I have remembered the original aircraft.cfg of the Cantu EMB120 is merely the default Kingair so any sort of improvement may be welcome. I believe there was a topic in the screenshot forum regarding Eric Cantu's aircraft and modifications for them.

What I am saying is that if the dynamics (King Air for a EMB-120) for the model is 'wrong' then it's like flying with only half a right wing. What will fuel flow adjustment do to compensate for THAT? Nothing! As it (fuel flow) is not a component of flight dyamics, per se.Fuel flow scalar and fuel flow gain plays into the hands of (HEAVY) simmers who only care about RANGE and about getting 'real' specs for calculating fuel loads. Neither do anything 'FOR or AGAINST' a/c dynamics.So I said: 'Throttle and vert speed is PILOT CONTROLED and not FDE controled.'And did NOT say: '..is saying the fuel flow, vertical speed, etc. is not directly controlled by FDE'. (A LOT of difference in the 2 statements).The fuel flow scalar and gain are 'set' (FIXED) but it's the pilot that will be in control of the % of power (NOT FIXED). Get it? One is set the other is VERY variable and controled by pilot. So fuel flow is NOT 'FDE' (ie: Flight Dynamics). To increase your range you simply reduce your power (%).CBNapamule

Ohk, I see, I have installed v2 anyways.So what would the PSS POSKY 777-200 merge fuel flow scalar be? Mine is very unrealistic, never eats up fuel to anywhere the exact value.Check out my other thread for me needing help, it's named "777 for FS2004"Please do help, I doubt anyone else will...

You have been 'set up' (as others might have been, too). There is NO such thing as a 'merge' version of engines (is there?). So why then did they INVENT a 'merge' type settings/values? It's a bunch of baloney. There is NO 'MERGE' type ENGINES. There is NO SANTA CLAUS (HELLO). Some one thought it would be cute and be 'catchy' so they made it up. That's all that's going on.The default or recommended values are 1.000 for fuel scalar, and 0.002 for fuel gain. The N2 max is 29920.000 rpm. Static thrust varies but try 84000.000. Go fly.CBNapamule

You have been 'set up' (as others might have been, too). There is NO such thing as a 'merge' version of engines (is there?). So why then did they INVENT a 'merge' type settings/values? It's a bunch of baloney. There is NO 'MERGE' type ENGINES. There is NO SANTA CLAUS (HELLO). Some one thought it would be cute and be 'catchy' so they made it up. That's all that's going on.The default or recommended values are 1.000 for fuel scalar, and 0.002 for fuel gain. The N2 max is 29920.000 rpm. Static thrust varies but try 84000.000. Go fly.CBNapamule

It might not be a merge, in the readme, he says he's corrected fuel flow and weights? Should I just use his weights into the default aircraft.cfg and keep everything else the same? What's wrong with his aircraft.cfg and air file? Just wondering. Can you tell me how his aircraft.cfg is different from original.So should I use original?Cheers, (Please do answer all my questions in this request)

If it says that the new data is more accurate I would say go for it. Unless you are an EMB-120 pilot or the data is seriously flawed I doubt it should make too much of a difference. But as a general rule when I see an aircraft has an update I will usually get the update just for the sake of (potentially) increased realism. But that is only my .02

If it says that the new data is more accurate I would say go for it. Unless you are an EMB-120 pilot or the data is seriously flawed I doubt it should make too much of a difference. But as a general rule when I see an aircraft has an update I will usually get the update just for the sake of (potentially) increased realism. But that is only my .02

But does anyone know what the real specs should be and if I should use this FDE???

http://www.aviationsvcs.com/emb120specs.htmThis page seems fairly thorough. Wish I could be more help here but this isn't quite my area of expertise. My only guess is upgrade it and fly.

http://www.aviationsvcs.com/emb120specs.htmThis page seems fairly thorough. Wish I could be more help here but this isn't quite my area of expertise. My only guess is upgrade it and fly.

Yea seen it, cheers anyways. Will use both FDE's merged by myself and changed contact points.Have fun and fly EMB-120s on vatsim! Barely seen enough fly on this wonderful network.I guess this is closed? Thanks for the help.

Nandan,I might be critical, and to you it may seem arrogant, but I can get the model and compare if/how the v2 FDE 'performs'. This I do all the time anyway. I want to know which model you have. The original Eric Cantu Emb-120 (which was for FS98)? Or an updated version (and by who)? There is one that uses the KA-350 FDE's and another one called 'Freno'. So please tell me which model or which zip file you have. That would get me started in the right direction. I can look at the specs, and if it's not 'up to par' can alter FDEs so it does. The trick is not to make changes that effect it adversely.I have been (very) sick with flu and a touch of p-monia. Sicker than a dog I was. Feeling better now after a week. So I'm back (but still weak). Sorry if it looked like I abandoned you on this. Just haven't been coming in here lately. So let's get back 'on it' if you want.The Emb-120 is a turbo-prop, a type I love to work on. I converted the DC-3 to turbo-prop (including reverse thrust-hehe). It climbs like a bat out of hell. Just for fun. So no one would accuse me of 'sticking to real' when it comes to changing FDEs. I consider ac's ability to make consistent 'smooth landings' part of the performance envelope, if that tells you anything. Climb speed is also a requirement (as it IS a turbo-prop). That can be accomplished rather easily. What problem you have/had with the contact points can also be addressed. I am GOOD with contact points. My specialty. So let me know which model. If it's payware I can't help you, but otherwise, yes I can make it do what you ask it to do. I don't have an Emb-120 and haven't had one for years.CBNapamule

Nandan,I might be critical, and to you it may seem arrogant, but I can get the model and compare if/how the v2 FDE 'performs'. This I do all the time anyway. I want to know which model you have. The original Eric Cantu Emb-120 (which was for FS98)? Or an updated version (and by who)? There is one that uses the KA-350 FDE's and another one called 'Freno'. So please tell me which model or which zip file you have. That would get me started in the right direction. I can look at the specs, and if it's not 'up to par' can alter FDEs so it does. The trick is not to make changes that effect it adversely.I have been (very) sick with flu and a touch of p-monia. Sicker than a dog I was. Feeling better now after a week. So I'm back (but still weak). Sorry if it looked like I abandoned you on this. Just haven't been coming in here lately. So let's get back 'on it' if you want.The Emb-120 is a turbo-prop, a type I love to work on. I converted the DC-3 to turbo-prop (including reverse thrust-hehe). It climbs like a bat out of hell. Just for fun. So no one would accuse me of 'sticking to real' when it comes to changing FDEs. I consider ac's ability to make consistent 'smooth landings' part of the performance envelope, if that tells you anything. Climb speed is also a requirement (as it IS a turbo-prop). That can be accomplished rather easily. What problem you have/had with the contact points can also be addressed. I am GOOD with contact points. My specialty. So let me know which model. If it's payware I can't help you, but otherwise, yes I can make it do what you ask it to do. I don't have an Emb-120 and haven't had one for years.CBNapamule

Ohk, here is the emb-120 base package i used: http://www.flightsim.com/file.php?cm=SEARC...me=EMB120-2.ZIPHere is the FDE (first one with file name aa12fdv2.zip):http://www.flightsim.com/file.phpAnd when I use the FDEv2 contact points it seems to be in the ground a bit. How to fix it? I tried to merge the original EMB-120s contact points and use the Static pitch -1.0 and cg height 4.3 from the v2FDE, but my front wheel stays floating in the air a bit. That's the only problem. Hope it helps, and thx for the help!!!Much appreciated.

Hello,point.0=1, 13.00, 0.00, -5.30, 1181, 0, 0.596, 39.9, 0.296, 1.581, 0.9516, 4.8, 4.8, 0, 184.0, 184.0You must play with the RED number ..This valor is nice for me ... but can be different for your setting ...Regards.Gus.